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Using "rape" to refer to the maltreatment of anime

crazydumbek wrote:

I look at this thread and chuckle a bit.

Yep, and in a few days everyone's going to look back on this thread and have a good laugh and head-shaking.

To begin with, I wasn't against the word 'rape' being used in association with anything but rape itself, simply using it in reference to an edited anime. No one I have ever seen, apart from people in this thread trying like hell to 'justify it', have used it in a correct way. Everyone uses the word 'rape' in regards to FMA, One Piece, other 4kids properties, Transformers, etc, and none of them, as it has been covered in this thread, deserve such lambasting.

This is a bit hard to summarise, I had to go back and re-read it and redo it a few times. However, I think people take things too seriously when what equates to 22 minute product-endorsements are changed around, that they think that somehow, their 'values' are important enough to be 'violated' or more importantly, 'raped'. Besides, incase you haven't read these or other forums, they never say it as 'my values are raped!", they say 'this show has been raped!'. They make the assertion that whatever it is has been raped, and not them, and it's simply inaccurate. It's one of those picky things, where even if you mean it genuinly, there's 1000 people out there that don't, but still spill out the same old garbage.

Sorry, but I seriously think you're [Selenta is] lying simply to say that you've done it, and therefore prove me wrong. (do you work in construction?)

But it's akin to the farmer who refers to "the rape of the land" when someone damages it. He has to use strong words because the land is the source of his livelihood. A city-dweller might think the word is too strong and the sentiment inappropriate. But however unimportant you may feel "22-minute product endorsements" are, that does not apply to everyone. Someone who is using anime as the lodestone of their existence needs the word to be accurate.

Steroid wrote:

But it's akin to the farmer who refers to "the rape of the land" when someone damages it. He has to use strong words because the land is the source of his livelihood. A city-dweller might think the word is too strong and the sentiment inappropriate. But however unimportant you may feel "22-minute product endorsements" are, that does not apply to everyone. Someone who is using anime as the lodestone of their existence needs the word to be accurate.

I'm sorry, but I fail to see how the treatment of a cartoon is even remotely similiar to a farmer's land. A farmer needs the land to survive. Without the land, the farmer is practically dead, but you don't need a quality dub to survive. Even if a dub has been severly edited, you can live on without it. The American companies are still making money, the dub VAs still have their jobs, the Japanese companies are still making money off of the show, fans are still downloading fansubs, abosuletly nobody is nearing death just because One Piece got screwed, the world is moving on even without uncut Yugioh, so those two comparisions aren't even remotely similiar to each other. 4Kids' "raping" of your oh-so precious anime did not effect your life whatsoever. If anything, if it wasn't for the "raping" of your precious anime, you wouldn't even be watching anime today, if "raped" anime dubs like Robotech and Battle Of The Planets never existed. And anyone who uses anime as their lodestone of existence needs to seriously seek therapy before they need a word to be accurate.

BI'm sorry, but I fail to see how the treatment of a cartoon is even remotely similiar to a farmer's land. A farmer needs the land to survive. Without the land, the farmer is practically dead, but you don't need a quality dub to survive. Even if a dub has been severly edited, you can live on without it. The American companies are still making money, the dub VAs still have their jobs, the Japanese companies are still making money off of the show, fans are still downloading fansubs, abosuletly nobody is nearing death just because One Piece got screwed, the world is moving on even without uncut Yugioh, so those two comparisions aren't even remotely similiar to each other.

4Kids' "raping" of your oh-so precious anime did not effect your life whatsoever. If anything, if it wasn't for the "raping" of your precious anime, you wouldn't even be watching anime today, if "raped" anime dubs like Robotech and Battle Of The Planets never existed.

And anyone who uses anime as their lodestone of existence needs to seriously seek therapy before they need a word to be accurate.

And everyone else, maybe make the extra sensitive peoples lives easier by never using any words that have any negative connotations.

If they can't get over themselves and hear not what they want to hear, but what the person intends to say, that's their own fault.

That's the theory, anyway. In court, sadly, it's usually your fault.

but apparently you can't use it on this site