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Izanagi009
Joined: 20 Oct 2014
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 8:19 am
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Cptn_Taylor wrote: |
I'm an convinced had Trigger made Cross Ange, the show would have never received the kind of infinite hatred it has. But since it's a Sunrise show well that's what you get. I will not change my opinion, Kill la Kill and Cross Ange are almost identical copies. Superficially different, dig a little bit and they're the same. |
No one expected you to change your opinion but I do have to ask what about Trigger would make them exempt from this type of anger. again, I disliked the scenes you mentioned when they occurred and I can't really justify them but their framing is slightly better than Cross Ange.
In the same token, what about Sunrise would elate this type of anger because I am the biggest supporter of Sunrise's mecha through Gundam and even Code Geass season 1. I want Sunrise to make good mecha just as I want Trigger to make good action or just quiet little shows like Little Witch Acedemia. Trigger hasn't screwed up like Sunrise has with Valvrave and Cross Ange so Trigger hasn't elated the anger of others.
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Key
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:02 am
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Frankly, I don't get the Sunrise mecha series hate, either, although I think it has to do at least in part with Gundam SEED.
Oh, and Captain_Taylor: That's twice now that I have had to add in KlK spoilers on your posts. (And that's especially irksome here because those are spoilers for me personally.) It is a forum expectation and requirement to use them in situations like this, so consider this a warning.
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Izanagi009
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:43 am
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Key wrote: | Frankly, I don't get the Sunrise mecha series hate, either, although I think it has to do at least in part with Gundam SEED.
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SEED hate came from a lot of the UC universe fans that called it inferior and while it is worse than the UC shows like Unicorn, I still think SEED is pretty good though Destiny dropped the ball and AGE was not that good.
i would think that the sunrise mecha hate would come from Valvrave and Buddy Complex as the first to me and probably many others was a coddled trainwreak of plots and twists and the latter being a very mediocre show with characters that I didn't care for and a war that was not elaborated on.
I do hope that Sunrise gets back on the horse and can make good original mecha on the level of Gundam
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Souther
Joined: 22 Feb 2015
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:11 pm
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I feel Salamandinay didn't live up to the hype, anyone agree/disagree? I mean, she was important and had her moments, but I felt action-wise, she didn't get a chance to strut her stuff much. I figured she'd be Ange's equal piloting-wise, but even her mech's abilities were limited aside from the Song.
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HaruhiToy
Joined: 15 Apr 2008
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:14 pm
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Souther wrote: | I feel Salamandinay didn't live up to the hype, anyone agree/disagree? |
The way it went down is that without her Aura would never have been set free which in turn means that Embryo would not have been stopped. The story would have had a significant hole without her. Yet I would agree that given how prominent she is in the banner artwork you would think she had a wider role but I think there was only so much they could cram in.
A lot of anime has a underused character problem and CA seems to have its share.
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mangamuscle
Joined: 23 Apr 2006
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:26 pm
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HaruhiToy wrote: | A lot of anime has a underused character problem and CA seems to have its share. |
Au contraire, xAnges's problem is that it has a huge cast and only two cours. Many shows with smaller casts have underused characters, here it is rare that you do not remember the name of any of them (Salako's two bodyguard names elude me). In recent memory the only other two cour show with such a huge cast is Shirobako.
Has this had another cour we would no doubt had some episodes where Ange trains and becomes to be on the same physical level as the dragon princess (and of course, get some insight into the Yuri harem so prominently shown where Ange has angel wings, I half expected for Ange to have those wings by the end of the series).
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