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NEWS: Phantom Episode 10 Leaked 1 Day Before Japan's Debut

Based on a lot of what I've been reading so far, it seems to me that there are a bunch of people who, if they found a wallet on the street, would simply jack the money and walk instead of trying to locate the owner and return said wallet.

I hope the growing pains as you called them don't last too long and things get fixed and back on track VERY SOON. The simulcasts and the streaming have been, at least in my opinion, a wonderful step in the right direction. It's just crazy to try and ruin it in my opinion.

Based on a lot of what I've been reading so far, it seems to me that there are a bunch of people who, if they found a wallet on the street, would simply jack the money and walk instead of trying to locate the owner and return said wallet.

WTH is wrong with you? Isn't this the sort of thinking that has kept anime companies from pursuing net distribution in the first place? If you KNOW that there's going to be a simulcast and you KNOW the date for it, unwad your panties and JUST FREAKIN' WAIT FOR IT. If you really want to get official zero-day subs, you're gonna have to let the companies get through the growing pains of learning how to do this sort of thing. In the meantime, you can go read a book or something.

Jeezus.

Iron Chef wrote:

Based on a lot of what I've been reading so far, it seems to me that there are a bunch of people who, if they found a wallet on the street, would simply jack the money and walk instead of trying to locate the owner and return said wallet. WTH is wrong with you? Isn't this the sort of thinking that has kept anime companies from pursuing net distribution in the first place? If you KNOW that there's going to be a simulcast and you KNOW the date for it, unwad your panties and JUST FREAKIN' WAIT FOR IT. If you really want to get official zero-day subs, you're gonna have to let the companies get through the growing pains of learning how to do this sort of thing. In the meantime, you can go read a book or something. Jeezus.

The bigger issue though is that Funimation has continued to breach their contracts by uploading files to their public servers before they air in Japan. Just accessing those files early is legal when they are on a public server and one just needs the URL, the only crime is copyright infringement. Had the group who leaks these files just distributed a link to the file on Funimation's server, no law would have been broken, and the only party who could have been sued would be Funimation by the company who's contract they breached.

Man why do people keep coming up with analogies that just do not even remotely apply?

If you really really want to stick with the dropped wallet analogy then it would be: "Hey we're giving out free wallets stashed with money tomorrow on this stand here". Well, it turns out that you've put them out on the stand a day earlier with a "Free wallets with money" sign.

Sounds ridiculous? Well it's the same situation with Funimation. So you're saying that it's peoples fault for accessing the files when they themselves had posted the files for the sole purpose of being accessed? Even if the intent was for it to be accessed later, there's nothing illegal nor unethical about accessing those files when they're made available.

I would have much more sympathy for Funimation if they simply acknowledged the long standing problem and did not try to point fingers at everyone else besides themselves. Of course that would put them in a pinch with the Japanese licensors.

A more accurate analogy would be that a stranger walked up to Funimation’s server and asked if it wanted to f**k, and it said yes. When Funimation found out about this, it got angry about how people thought its server was a slut and so started claiming that the server was raped and grounded the server for a while. Now as it turns out, the stranger happened to record itself having (consensual) sex with Funimation’s server and released the video on the internet, without the server’s knowledge. This part was illegal (as with all fansubs), but the sex itself was not.

Here we go again. Like the One Piece thread, this isn't going to end well.

Dang it people, is it THAT impossible to wait for an anime episode? Is it that entertaning to ruin other people's enjoyment and to have absolutely no remorse about this at all?

I really feel for Funimation, this stupid incidents like this that make anime progress stay in the same exact spot we were years ago.

I was just thinking about the phrase: Lighting doesn't strike twice. you know the theory about someone on the inside... well my new theory is kind of like that... but a little different. Before you think "oh this is going to be stupid" here me out... what if and I know this is a big a what if: the person uploading the episodes is a disgruntled employee... someone who hates their job so much that they want to quit but can't... so they decided to take the company down... It might seem unlikely, but it's a possibility... even more possible than someone on the inside working for the fansubs.

Well a certain fansub group who has been distributing CR's sub of Naruto certainly thinks so. In fact they say that they exist to piss the American companies and CR off.

Iron Chef wrote:

Based on a lot of what I've been reading so far, it seems to me that there are a bunch of people who, if they found a wallet on the street, would simply jack the money and walk instead of trying to locate the owner and return said wallet.

I'd try to find the owner but I'd spend a while debating my choice and thinking I was stupid to do it. That warm fuzzy feeling when I give it back would help but I know I'd totally be thinking "I could have bought some great stuff with that money."

I hope the growing pains as you called them don't last too long and things get fixed and back on track VERY SOON. The simulcasts and the streaming have been, at least in my opinion, a wonderful step in the right direction. It's just crazy to try and ruin it in my opinion.

Here we go again. Like the One Piece thread, this isn't going to end well.

Dang it people, is it THAT impossible to wait for an anime episode? Is it that entertaning to ruin other people's enjoyment and to have absolutely no remorse about this at all?

I really feel for Funimation, this stupid incidents like this that make anime progress stay in the same exact spot we were years ago.