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FaytLein



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:26 am Reply with quote
I too had Top Secret Episode as a kid, however, I think I simply couldn't beat the second dungeon/maze thing and promptly forgot about it. Then I watched The Professional and Queen Bee, which reignited my fascination with Golgo 13. I actually picked up the first Viz Volume and alternated between laughing at the US government sending Togo in alone against Saddam's new supergun built into a dam and being quietly shamed when after the backstory behind the evil scientist comes to light Duke (after sexing up his informant) walks to a cliff edge, fires ONE SHOT into the lake, which hits some mechanism in the lake, makes the gun misfire and blows the whole thing to a million pieces. Also the story of a mafia boss that ran over some prostitute and the detective with a history with the mafioso and the mere RUMOR of Golgo showing up is enough to drive him insane and into the arms of the police.

What was even more fun was at the end of the volume, it contained a lot of pertinent info about Duke, how like he can speak almost 30 languages flawlessly, is a genius in mathematics (who can perform satellite triangulations in his head) knows tons of martial arts and prettymuch anything needed at the time.
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Iritscen



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:38 am Reply with quote
Entertaining article. I liked the side-by-side pictures from the manga and new series; I just hope that cat makes it!

I'm curious, isn't gekiga considered a separate "branch" from manga? Not trying to be a pedant, I'm just wondering if Golgo 13 is generally called a manga or if it's only "gekiga" to the Japanese.

Also, can I ask, what is Anime Hell? Did you mean AMV Hell? Only asking because I wanted to Google it, and I'm not really finding anything.
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kameoosama



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:18 pm Reply with quote
FaytLein wrote:
I too had Top Secret Episode as a kid, however, I think I simply couldn't beat the second dungeon/maze thing and promptly forgot about it.


That seems to be most people's experience but I beat that sucker. Did you have the instruction manual with the maps? I got my copy used and the maps were all marked.
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Megiddo



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:58 pm Reply with quote
Iritscen wrote:
Also, can I ask, what is Anime Hell? Did you mean AMV Hell? Only asking because I wanted to Google it, and I'm not really finding anything.
Anime Hell is basically a convention thing. You're in a packed room with a ton of people, usually around 10pm - midnight, and you watch the most ridiculous, hilarious, horrifying, stupifying, and absurd clips known to man, be they animated or live-action.

Not sure if all conventions have Hell, but the main ones I have been to (A-kon, ACen, and A-Fest) had it... I think only Ikkicon (which is tiny) didn't have it.
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Mike Toole
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:23 pm Reply with quote
silentjay wrote:
Mike, the releases of Assignment Kowloon from Navarre (BCI/Ronin, in the "Sonny Chiba Action Pack" and "Sonny Chiba Collection" , uh, collections.) are legit, and remastered. The English dub, however, uses the same master that's been used on the earlier version from Crash Cinema.


Good to know, thanks. I recall seeing the Brentwood/BCI issue in the wake of Kill Bill's release, and just assumed from the cheesy packaging that it was from the same stock as the Crash Cinema release, which was very sketchy indeed. Looks like the Sonny Chiba Action Pack is still available from Best Buy, for those curious.

Daimao Raki wrote:
An assasin isn't supposed to be feeling or all angsty. Probably why today's crowd doesn't like Golgo 13 or manga/anime like it.


Carl put it well in his correspondence with me, which I had to struggle mightily to avoid over-quoting: "It's no wonder Golgo 13 takes jobs, but he doesn't take sides; he wants to hear a client's justification, but he's never going to tell them they're justified."

doc-watson42 wrote:
Can anyone verify that Viz's Golgo 13 collections are derived from the Japanese "best of" collections, as asserted here (see "Golgo 13 Gaku", though that title is actually for this, from which selections were excerpted for the Viz editions) and in the Anime on DVD/Mania.com thread "Viz to release only 13 volumes of Golgo 13"?


I don't have the original books, but I'd always operated under the assumption that the collection was cribbed from an existing Japanese set. About the Viz collection's extensive liner notes, Carl comments: "The basis of the "File 13" liner notes were translations of various articles from the Japanese book "Encyclopedia of Golgo 13"--but this was a book meant for Japanese fans who could be expected to have most or all of the entire series to consult. Since that probably wasn't the case for the average reader of the English version, I would take the "Encyclopedia" entries as a starting point, and expand on them."

edzieba wrote:
Normally, non-completion of an obscure series is put down to the work of nebulous sub-ninjas, working tirelessly to prevent people from watching Panzer World Galient.


I suspect these are the same forces preventing fans from enjoying Giant Gorg!

Kyaa the Catlord wrote:
Urban Vision is a weird weird company.


They are, actually! In the article I cited a quote from Mata Yamamoto. Not only did Mr Yamamoto produce the original Golgo 13 film, he helped underwrite several others, and Urban Vision is a satellite of his own Foothill Vision concern. It's no accident that both the film and OVA of Golgo 13 ended up in his company's hands. As for Strange Dawn, what set that series apart for me was UV's horribly misguided attempt to market it to children (it was released under the "lil' vision" imprint, complete with puffy white clamshells for the VHS version) and the odd circumstances of its dub, which was, IIRC, recorded in Tokyo by a cross-section of English-speaking foreigners.

Iritscen wrote:
I'm curious, isn't gekiga considered a separate "branch" from manga? Not trying to be a pedant, I'm just wondering if Golgo 13 is generally called a manga or if it's only "gekiga" to the Japanese.


Some might call it that. I think gekiga is just a convenient label for the maturation of some aspects of manga storytelling in the 60s. Interestingly, the 1986 Lead Publishing paperbacks indentified Gokgo 13 as gekiga, perhaps because "manga" was still a largely unknown term then.

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Also, can I ask, what is Anime Hell? Did you mean AMV Hell? Only asking because I wanted to Google it, and I'm not really finding anything.


First "anime hell" result from Google has it. It's a video ephemera show run at about a dozen conventions, originating at AWA. I run a version of it at Anime Boston.

kameoosama wrote:
That seems to be most people's experience but I beat that sucker. Did you have the instruction manual with the maps? I got my copy used and the maps were all marked.


You were lucky. I actually painstakingly mapped out the mazes on graph paper. As I lent the game out to classmates, so went the maps as well. The "Impossible Hit" comic also had marked maps for several of the mazes in the back.

The back cover of this comic features an ad for the games publisher (Vic Tokai Inc.) and TOP SECRET EPISODE, with the tagline FACE IT! YOU'VE GOT GOLGOMANIA BAD. From the feedback I'm getting on this column, that's still true today. Thanks, gang!
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TheTheory



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:40 pm Reply with quote
Ah man! A couple of months ago I found a Sonny Chiba collection of 6 movies, including Golgo 13, at a local dollar store for (of course) $1. I had to pick it up, even though I knew nothing of Golgo 13, other than there had been an anime and manga series.

Oddly, considering your question as to whether or not there was a legitimate release of the movie in America... I too had the same question regarding the set. Ultimately, I decided it was legit because it was released by BCI, which is owned by Navarre (or was owned by Navarre whenever it was that this set was released). Doesn't mean it is legit, I guess, but Navarre is a commonly known name in these parts.

Incidentally, I also picked up The Sister Street Fighter collection at the same time/price. I have yet to watch any of the movies... but for a buck a set, I figure I've done well.
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dewlwieldthedarpachief



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:04 am Reply with quote
I grabbed the Sister Street Fighter I&II Blu-ray when that was out. Regular Chiba is mind-blowing but supporting Chiba is like a Greek god bearing the weight of your movie.

I'd already seen the original Golgo 13 anime and checked out Queen Bee after I read this. While I enjoy the subject matter, the pacing of these shows is downright painful at times. I also checked out some of the older 70s/80s manga I've seen around and so much of the material is just covering "how it's going to go down" like Mike said...I'd like to read a Golgo 13 story with more attention to the logistics and less of the drama between characters. I liked the action that was in Queen Bee, though. More of that, please.
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Paul Soth



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2010 3:43 pm Reply with quote
In volume five of Viz's release of the manga, the second story, titled "Germany is One" first printed in 1990, revolves around a collection of EU lawmakers who play a tabletop simulation of European politics. During a key moment, the performance of Golgo 13's skill is simulated with the roll of a 100 sided die, known as Zocchihedron.

I attend the Origins Game Fair in Columbus each year, and one of the regular exhibitors is gaming legend Lou Zocchi, who also invented the 100-sided die used in the story. After the publication of volume 5, I asked him if he knew about the die's use in the story, and he told me that it was the first time he heard about it. I later showed him the pages used and even gave him a copy of volume 5. He insisted on paying me for it, however.
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Frazmataz



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 4:34 am Reply with quote
Great article Smile That's another manga on my list!

I wonder if 'The Impossible Hit' is included in the Viz releases...
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doc-watson42
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:00 am Reply with quote
Frazmataz wrote:
Great article Smile That's another manga on my list!

I wonder if 'The Impossible Hit' is included in the Viz releases...
No, I don't believe so.
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Frazmataz



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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2010 11:03 am Reply with quote
doc-watson42 wrote:
Frazmataz wrote:
Great article Smile That's another manga on my list!

I wonder if 'The Impossible Hit' is included in the Viz releases...
No, I don't believe so.


That's a shame Confused
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