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Sir Amyas Leigh
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Crap I must still be in south park humor mode because this made me laugh like a jackass. ass burgers! |
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purplepolecat
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In Death Note, L is a textbook Aspie, and Light is a textbook sociopath. It's never mentioned explicitly, but it's obvious if you are familiar with the disorders.
Radical Edward is also clearly on the autism spectrum. |
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Meygaera
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That's like saying don't buy almost every manga in existence. Besides we all know we aren't the target audience of this material, so even if we tried to boycott or do something about it, we wouldn't make much of a difference. I could see something like this working with American content. And the sexism thing in shounen and shoujo manga: I've always noticed that shounen stuff is always more visually sexist, the girls are there for their bodies. The bodies are of impossible proportions. Their bodies are always mentioned, commented on, etc. This makes sense because how often in the real world do we see women's bodies being exploited? ALL THE TIME. Men are more visually excited so visual sexism happens more often in shounen content. In shoujo manga it is more role-based sexism and stereotypes. It's situational sexism where the girl is put into a situation that is sexist, and the outcome is sexist, i.e. she's in some seemingly helpless situation because she's a girl, where she needs the guy to save her. A perfect example this season is "Say I Love You", Yamato is the only medium between Mei and everyone else, as if he's her spokesperson. The girl just can't stand up for herself anymore. In fact she's gotten worse, the only time she did stand up for herself was in the first episode. I don't even know if this anime passes the Bechdel test. I had to drop it around episode 6 or 7. In shounen and shoujo manga I think the sexism stems from the main character (In shounen it's always the spineless wimpy guy who ends up with the harem. Am I supposed to think that the spineless wimp is what the creators think of me?). On the other hand I think there are attempts at making more interesting protagonists. "My Little Monster" has a very interesting female lead. She has her priorities in check (and wouldn't ya know, some of those priorities don't involve getting married to a dream guy, you go girl!). She doesn't take shit from people, she tells you straight what's on her mind, and won't listen to anyone (including guys) if it conflicts with her priorities. |
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DmonHiro
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Skimpy stripper outfits... in Madoka?
Was this guy watching the wrong show? Did I miss an episode? Was there some hot-springs OVA I didn't watch? |
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RyanSaotome
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Their outfits are even more conservative than your average Pretty Cure (a show aimed at kids), which often show off midriff and a lot more skin. No idea what kinda standards you'd need to consider the Madoka girls as wearing "Stripper outfits". |
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K.o.R
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That $75 for the special edition got you more than just a nice box and the soundtrack |
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DmonHiro
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You LIE! I bought that. |
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TarsTarkas
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It is not that he didn't like the show, it was that he compared PMMM's girls to strippers and that if PMMM was a live action show it would be considered "child ..................". So unless he is a Puritan from the 1600's, he has greatly exaggerated his reasons for disliking this show to the point of unbelievability. To me it sounds like he doesn't just dislike the show, but hates it. |
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halochief_90
Posts: 466 Location: Canada |
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Yeah, I was going to mention something like that before I saw your post. I especially don't see how someone could consider Mei's obvious social awkwardness to be autism. Best stay away from the dictionary definition when identifying autistic people. |
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Kazemon15
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But it really has been done before. I do agree with the poster on Madoka, minus the stripper outfits though....I don't see how they can be considered stripper outfits or child abuse, since almost every Magical Girl series has its dose of nude transformation scenes. |
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Chagen46
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The Madoka guy has to be a troll. No one could be so prudish as to find the outfits in the show to be "stripper" outfits.
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Cecilthedarkknight_234
Posts: 3820 Location: Louisville, KY |
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What's more shocking is that specific copy pasta from @channel madoka threads was actually replied to in this weeks answer-man. I really don't have a response for anything else in all honesty, I'll be off in my little corner now. |
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stardf29
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You know, for what it's worth, I think that Mashiro Shiina of The Pet Girl of Sakurasou is actually one of the most accurate representations of an autistic person I have seen in anime. They don't outright say that she's autistic, but I've seen many people note that she does have a lot of the "textbook" symptoms, and Episode 10, in particular, does a good job of showing how, while Mashiro does have feelings of her own, she has a hard time understanding the thoughts and feelings of other people and entering into their worlds--one of the big signs of an autistic-spectrum disorder.
That said, her inability to dress herself and whatnot is completely separate. |
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Emma Iveli
Posts: 679 Location: Hobo with internet |
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And of course Homura has the most scandalous outfit yet! I mean look at all of the skin she shows, like her hands and her face! And even part of her neck! THE HORROR! |
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chrisb
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I've always thought that some of the better anime to deal with mental disorders were the first two seasons of Digimon. I think the show explored childhood depression rather well without being too extreme.
Utena was another one. Everyone seemed to have either severe depression or had borderline personality disorder. The manga series LIFE (which I LOVE) was way extreme in its themes, but it also dealt with Sadistic Personality Disorder, Borderline Personality Disorder, and suicide (which was treated with a surprising amount of sincerity.) I wish anime would explore these issues a bit more without it getting in the way of the overall story. We don't need any "tonight on a special episode of..." anime! |
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