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Stark700
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Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:05 pm
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Season 2, episode 6:
I'm still not a fan of this Ayame girl yet. She definitely has her presence in the show but nothing really outstanding sticks out to me about her. I'm glad Hachiken is doing better after overworking though.
As far Aki and Hachiken's relationship, I wonder how far that will progress later on in this series.
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Gina Szanboti
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Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:30 pm
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Glad to finally get a little insight into Hachi's family life. He owes his mom an apology though. He shouldn't take his frustration with his dad out on her just because she lets him.
Great episode though!
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DuskyPredator
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Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:22 am
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Season 2, Episode 6
*sniffle*
There were some pretty down moments in this episode, after Hachiken had become exhausted physically he was hit with things emotionally. You really can't blame him for becoming that upset from the circumstances that he would take some frustration out on his mother and make decisions that lead him to walking back to the school by the time the festival closed. Seems normal that at times you can feel that you are alone, that no one cares about you, that maybe you were lying to yourself.
Which is why the end of the episode was so great in that it was showing that they did really care, like the fact that everyone stayed is that they wanted to make the most out of his hard work. I could really feel Hachiken's kind of tearfully happy, and I was happy to watch the ED to just get the feels back to a smile.
Maybe it had something to do that we can all feel a bit like Hachiken at times, but things may only look bad for a little while.
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Gina Szanboti
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:17 pm
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Episode 19
Well, that was sure a kick in the head.
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Stark700
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Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 2:20 pm
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Season 2, episode 8:
Wow, that's a lot of feels this episode but managing a business is never easy. They should of saw that coming at some point. On another note, I want to eat some cheese later tomorrow after watching the episode.
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DuskyPredator
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:01 am
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Season 2, Episode 8
When they were all talking about the fact that they do not go hungry I was actually thinking about how running those sort of businesses can actually be rather hard financially. And then we find out that not only was Komba down from not making it further in baseball, but he was quitting school because the family debt had gotten too large. And since Mikage's family co-signed for the loan, if his family ended up bankrupt the debt would go to her family.
It is all easy to say that he should stay in school, but the facts paint the situation as very complex. A part of me actually does not want an easy way out so that there is some sort of message about financial difficulties of the business, but the other part wants him back and everything solved happily.
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Gina Szanboti
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Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2014 1:39 am
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I know what you mean. And it's not just losing his dream, it's the shame of everyone knowing about it. I imagine that might be even more acute in Japan.
We know Hachi won't sit still for this though. I'm expecting him to bite the bullet and try to arrange something through his father to help them, which will then open the door to us finding out just what all his issues are at home.
Do we know what his father does for a living? I just have a vague sense he's a businessman of some sort, but I can't remember if I just imagined him being a banker or stockbroker or something financial like that. I can think of a number of ways Hachi could help if his father can/will financially back him, that don't involve simply paying off the debt, which would be the wrong way out of this and something I don't see happening.
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crosswithyou
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:41 am
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This part in the manga already had me wibbling and even knowing what was to come, this episode still made me tear up. Arakawa sensei's stories are so amazing. ;__;
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Mylene
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 11:30 am
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Gina Szanboti wrote: |
We know Hachi won't sit still for this though. I'm expecting him to bite the bullet and try to arrange something through his father to help them, which will then open the door to us finding out just what all his issues are at home. |
I hope not, much of the appeal of the show for me is the realism, and to counteract that realism with a deus ex machina solution would hurt the credibility a bit. The amount of money involved isn't something that could be so easily fixed.
I suppose it's because this hits really close to home for me, so I don't want to see it trifled away with a "city slicker teenager can save a farm that experienced farmers were unable to save!" sort of activity. I think, much like with Pork Bowl, it would be best for Hachiken to realize there's so much you can do but much more you cannot change.
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Gina Szanboti
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 8:40 pm
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Mylene wrote: | I suppose it's because this hits really close to home for me, so I don't want to see it trifled away with a "city slicker teenager can save a farm that experienced farmers were unable to save!" sort of activity. |
I can't imagine this series doing something so heavy handed as that, and what I was thinking isn't. I have the impression (and if I'm wrong, then the point is moot) that Hachi's father has some considerable bank. It's not money he would give away, but if he could be convinced there was profit in it, he might buy out the loan and give the family another year to realize Komaba's original plan.
Whether or not that happens (I still kind of expect him to ask, if only so we can see more of the father-son interaction), it's not a question of "experienced farmers couldn't save it." The father's death put them in a bad situation that no amount of experience could overcome. If someone outside the community is in a position to help, I don't see how that puts them in a bad light.
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Spastic Minnow
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:26 pm
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Actually, they already know a person who could possibly help if they could convince her it'd be profitable. Tamako. In the least I figure she'll be instrumental in a plan to save the farm or at least keep them working and out of debt. She did mention something no one paid attention to at the time: "You're not considering joint management?"
I think the show will go for the "we'll fix it with the help of our friends" route, not the "Hachiken needs to ask his dad for help" route. Hachiken needs to prove to his father that he made the right choice and can accomplish things in his school. I also see his relationship problems to be a much bigger issue, one that outlasts this current season/arc. If Hachiken's father plays any role I don't think it will be a decisive one.
If there's anyone Hachiken needs to reach out to first, it's his brother, not his father. And just think how that could help. Komaba farms really needs a helping hand... who do we know who is currently jobless and probably willing to help out those in need?
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Gina Szanboti
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 9:43 pm
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I could see you being right on every one of those possibilities!
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WhiteHairGirls
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:30 pm
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Such Sadness
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Stark700
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:52 pm
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Nice, the series revisits its prominent theme of following dreams again. I'm rooting for Mikage there.
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CrowLia
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Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:45 am
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This was so painful to watch. I give kudos to Arakawa for taking a realistic approach even if it's hard and heartbreaking. Now I'm at least hoping that Mikage will be able to do something about her dream. Beautifully painful episode. I loved seeing Hachiken toughing it out and coming so close to the reality of farmlife, yet being able to stand by their friends, even if that hurts him more.
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