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NEWS: Shiawase Pantsu Includes Children's Panties as Promo

I wouldn't say it's close to acting on it, though, but it does open up the possibility of acting on it. People who rape children are people who are into that kind of thing, of course. Thus, naturally we want to minimize the people that have that kind of sick interest in society.

In particular, did you see the ending which presents the fallacy of the concept of "pre-crime"?

People who rape children are people who are into that kind of thing, of course.

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I wouldn't say it's close to acting on it, though, but it does open up the possibility of acting on it. People who rape children are people who are into that kind of thing, of course. Thus, naturally we want to minimize the people that have that kind of sick interest in society.

But unless you can prove that all or most people who are into that kind of thing will rape children, your point is moot.

In most instances, ogling (not 'peeping')or fantasizing are not illegal. Not unless you somehow act on your urges or otherwise violate somebody else's rights. And that is morally wrong even when the targets/victims are adults, so the age factor is not really relevant in this instance.

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In particular, did you see the ending which presents the fallacy of the concept of "pre-crime"?

Agreed. If people were to be punished for what they might do, we'd all be in jail for one reason or the other. Just because someone likes a particular something does not necessarily mean they will actually indulge in it. And unless someone can prove that exposure to A has a direct and determinable ability to influence somebody to carry out A, it is self-aggrandizing to insist otherwise. Not that I believe in promoting or justifying paedophilia: I think it's sick. But if these people are not breaking any local laws or hurting anyone (other than themselves), their fetishes are really none of our business. And really, how many among us can say that we do not have our own fetishes or interests that someone else somewhere would claim to be immoral?

You seem to have missed my point entirely. I made no comment that people who are into lolipron will rape children. I only stated that people who rape children were obviously interested in children in the first place (you have it the other way around). I said, "People who rape children are people who are into that kind of thing, of course." I didn't say people who look at lolipron are going to rape children, I only stated that the people who DO rape children are people who were interested in children in the first place. It's pretty clear-cut (and makes a big difference which way you put the "means" and the "ends").

Let's look on the bright side of this one...at least it's better for this their readers to get pre-schooler panties from a magazine than to get them by kidnapping, coercion, or any other means that involve actual pre-school girls.

I just hope there won't be another Miyazaki. And I'm not talking about Hayao Miyazaki.

Sex sells. Period. Whether its sex with a child...

Steventheeunuch wrote:

wildarmsheero wrote: v1cious wrote: so i guess i'll ask what if someone was ogling your little sister and/or daughter like that? I don't have a little sister or a daughter, but if I did I probably would have been ogling them my self. GET THE HELL OFF OF MY INTERNET

Agreed. You sir, are sick.

1. This is not your intenet, it is all of ours.
2. Is his thoughts sick? I would say yes.
3. Is it illegal for him to have these thoughts and should be kicked out of the forum? Not in any western civilization that I know of.

Now don't get me wrong, I personally believe that loilicon is morally wrong. But that said, I haven't seen any sort of an uproar about other hentai that include what would be illegal elements in real life.

Why do you believe that loilicon is sick? Is it because it has something that would be morally and legally wrong in real life? If so then do you also think Bandage/rape, Tentical Rape, & Incest Hentai are also all just as sick? And if so, why haven't you called for the banning of people on this forum that enjoy these?

Or what about fantasies. Have you ever fantasied about someone that it would be morally wrong to be with? (aka someone who is married) If so, are you not also guilty of the same things that you are accusing wildarmsheero of?

I do not watch any lolicon and I believe it to be immoral. I also belive most hentai (and porn for that matter) to be immoral. But I do not think that it should be illegal just because it is immoral.

Back to the original start of this topic. I think this advertisment by this manga company was bad and very distastefull. But I am afraid that this will be less likely to end in a backlash against Lolicon and more then likely push the line of what is considered exceptable more towards Loilicon.

One last thought. Instead of shouting wildarmsheero down and calling him sick, maybe this would be a good oppertunity to pick his brain and find out why someone with these desires is the way they are.