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roseversailles



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:51 am Reply with quote
First of all, I am sincerely sorry if this is already a thread, or is not a suitable thread to start---if it is, I'm happy to delete it or see it moved/deleted.

Now, I've been researching investing in a region free Blu-ray player for a long time, especially since they have some series not available in the states. I thought others may be wondering about the difference in quality between the releases so that they can make an educated purchase, and starting a thread for input from people who have already done so (or purchased/reviewed at least one release),might be helpful.

Once again, I hope this thread can be helpful to people wondering about releases on the other side of the pond, and can list some of the specs left out on a lot of websites.

-Roseversailles
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st_owly



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 2:58 am Reply with quote
Don't import any UK BluRays released by a company called Kaze. The quality is absolutely shocking, for example cramming an entire 13 episode show onto 1 disc, discs not playing on certain models of player, no signs only tracks. I could go on. Pretty much all the UK anime fans I know will import US releases of their shows.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:11 am Reply with quote
That sounds awful! I know they got a lot of complaints for their Mawaru Penguindrum DVDs concerning the signs not being translated, and generally poor subtitles. The Sentai release of Penguindrum wasn't exactly stellar (iffy subtitles, not as high a bitrate as the Japanese releases), but they were preferable to the Kaze DVDs.

Any word on MVM? My eyes are burning a hole into their Fate/Zero release (not crazy about the packaging, but that price! Surprised ), but from all of my research on the web, all I've uncovered is that they have episodes spread out across two discs vs. Aniplex's three (for the Hybrid release), with Dolby Digital for the English track and LPCM for the Japanese track on the Aniplex release (MVM has LPCM for both tracks). What I haven't been able to find out is bitrate: Aniplex's release supposedly fluctuates between a healthy 32 to 40 kbps, but I cannot find the specs for MVM. Anyone have any previous experience with MVM, or their Fate/Zero release in particular?
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st_owly



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:22 am Reply with quote
MVM Blurays seem acceptable as far as I can tell (I don't actually have a BR player so I'm just going off what others have said) If you browse this forum there's a lot of discussion about the quality of various UK releases.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:45 am Reply with quote
Also thought I'd post Ghibli specs for anyone that's curious, as a reference of sorts. I'll list the JP video bitrate and audio specs, followed by the US and UK specs.

Full disclosure: I have not gotten all of these specs by myself. All of the UK and JP release values have been taken from a Studio Ghibli comparison thread on Blu-ray.com. I'd be happy to link to them if anyone would like me to, all credit goes to them. Just listing this here for those who may not have seen the info otherwise.

Nausicaa
-JP: 39.54 mbps, Japanese LPCM 2.0 @ 2304 kbps and English Dolby Digital 2.0 @ 256 kbps
-US: 24.10 mbps, Japanese DTS MA 2.0 @ 2110 kbps, English DTS-HD MA 2.0 @ 2077 kbps
-UK: 31.17 mbps (minor color tone difference), Japanese LPCM 2.0 @ 1536 kbps, English LPCM @ 1536 kbps

Laputa
-JP: 33.34 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 2.0 @ 1732 kbps, English DD 2.0 @ 640 kbps (2003 full-orchestra re-score but with the additional dialogue + newer sound effects removed)
-US: 23.99 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 2.0 @ 2098 kbps, English DTS-HD MA 5.1-ES @ 3685 kbps (2010 version - original score, no script changes) *note this release has dubtitles only
-UK: N/A (DNR and color tint are noted), Japanese LPCM 2.0 1536 kbps, English LPCM 5.1 @ 4608 kbps (2003 re-score but with the additional dialogue + newer sound effects removed)

Grave of the Fireflies
-JP: 35.14 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 2.0 @ 2120 kbps, no English language option
-US: 19.81 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 2.0 @ 2097 kbps / 24-bit, English DTS-HD MA 2.0 @ 2086 kbps, English DTS-HD MA 2.0 @ 2018 kbps *note: US release is noted as having dubtitles, have not personally confirmed this to be the case
-UK: N/A

My Neighbor Totoro
-JP: 34.63 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 2.0 @ 2092 kbps, English DD 2.0 @ 192 kbps
-US: 34.96 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 2.0 @ 2050 kbps, English DTS-HD 2.0 MA @ 2114 kbps 2.0
-UK: 25.66 mbps, Japanese LPCM 2.0 @ 1536 kbps, English LPCM 2.0 @ 1536 kbps

Kiki's Delivery Service
-JP: 36.41 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 2.0 @ 2124 kbps / 24-bit, English DD @ 192 kbps
-US: N/A
-UK: 29.59 mbps, Japanese LPCM 2.0 @ 1536 kbps, English LPCM 2.0 @ 1536 kbps

Only Yesterday
-JP: 31.98 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD 2.0 @ 2101 kbps
-US: N/A
-UK: N/A

Porco Rosso
-JP: 35.20 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 2.0 @ 2164 kbps, English DD 2.0 @192 kbps
-US: N/A
-UK: N/A (is available, but have not been able to find specs)

Pom Poko
JP: 32.52 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 2.0 @ 2126 kbps / 24-bit, English DD 2.0 @192 kbps
US: N/A
UK: N/A

Whisper of the Heart
-JP: 32.92 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 5.1 @ 3981 kbps, English DTS 5.1 @ 768 kbps
-US: 18.00 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 5.1 @ 4391 kbps, English DTS-HD MA 5.1 @ 4551 kbps
-UK: 21.82 mbps (slight DNR), Japanese DTS-HD MA 5.1 @ 3982 kbps, English DTS-HD MA 5.1 @ 4002 kbps

My Neighbor the Yamadas
-JP: 35.93 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 5.1 @ 2314 kbps, English DD 5.1 @ 640Kbps
-US: N/A
-UK: 32.03 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 5.1 @ 2241 kbps, English DTS-HD MA 5.1 @ 4274 kbps

Howl's Moving Castle
-JP: 24.33 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 5.1-ES @ 3986 kbps, English DTS 5.1 @ 768 kbps
-US: 27.26 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 5.1 @ 4153 kbps, English DTS-HD MA 5.1 @ 4376 kbps
-UK: 23.20 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 5.1 @ 2154 kbps, English DTS-HD MA 5.1 @ 2299 kbps

Tales from Earthsea
-JP: 21.59 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 6.1 @ 4710 kbps, English DTS 5.1 768 kbps
-US: N/A
-UK: 22.28 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 6.1 @ 2463 kbps, English DTS-HD MA 5.1 @ 2262 kbps

Ponyo
-JP: 23.51 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 6.1 @ 4537 kbps, English DD 2.0 @ 256 kbps
-US: 23.51 mbps, Japanese DD EX 5.1 @ 640 kbps, English DTS-HD MA 5.1 @ 2260 kbps
-UK: 27.49 mbps (is noted as having lower compression quality and only has English dub credits), Japanese DTS-HD MA 6.1 @ 4558 kbps, English LPCM 5.1 @ 4608 kbps

Arrietty
-JP: 26.39 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 5.1 @ 4157 kbps, no English dub
-US: 27.62 mbps, Japanese DTS HD MA 5.1 @ 4471 kbps / US DTS HD MA 5.1 @ 3805 kbps
-UK: 19.04 mbps, Japanese DTS-MA 5.1 @ 2163 kbps / UK DTS-HD MA 5.1 @ 2179 kbps (different English dub made for UK audiences)

From Up on Poppy Hill
-JP: 33.58 mbps, Japanese DTS HD MA 5.0 @ 3731 kbps/24-bit, no English dub
-US: 19.98 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 5.0 @ 2108 kbps, English DTS-HD MA 5.0 @ 2140 kbps
-UK: 25.84 mbps, Japanese DTS-HD MA 5.0 @ 3734 kbps, English DTS-HD MA 5.0 @ 3521 kbps

Specs for Princess Mononoke, Ocean Waves, The Cat Returns, Spirited Away, and The Wind Rises have not yet been found. Will amend post if this changes.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:46 am Reply with quote
st_owly wrote:
MVM Blurays seem acceptable as far as I can tell (I don't actually have a BR player so I'm just going off what others have said) If you browse this forum there's a lot of discussion about the quality of various UK releases.


Thank you, will definitely check this out!
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