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NEWS: Ghibli Co-Founder Toshio Suzuki Retires as Producer


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Mohawk52



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2014 5:24 pm Reply with quote
GATSU wrote:
Mohawk: They do incorporate CG. You can tell with certain scenes in Spirited Away and Princess Mononoke. They just don't do it in a garbage way which blends badly with the 2-d background like with a lot of anime.
I get the feeling that's about to change and not for the better.
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StudioToledo



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2014 5:30 pm Reply with quote
walw6pK4Alo wrote:
Mohawk52 wrote:
Well one thing's for sure. It'll be goodbye cels, hello CGi soon. Laughing


It's already goodbye cels, aside from the paper they draw line-art on, like pretty much every other anime that's airing.

How soon they forget.

At least we still have paper, lord knows how long that would be yet.

Mohawk52 wrote:
Name me one Ghibli /Miyazaki/ Suzuki produced movie that was done in CGi and not hand drawn cels. Wink

I know Ponyo was. The odd shifting the the frame itself is really an effect created digitally to resemble the sort of film-like jutter that occurs in film projection. The still painted the backgrounds on paper and animated the drawings on paper before scanning them in. Many Ghibli productions after Princess Mononoke where in some way finalized through digital applications.
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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:25 pm Reply with quote
Mohawk52 wrote:
walw6pK4Alo wrote:
Mohawk52 wrote:
Well one thing's for sure. It'll be goodbye cels, hello CGi soon. Laughing


It's already goodbye cels, aside from the paper they draw line-art on, like pretty much every other anime that's airing.
Name me one Ghibli /Miyazaki/ Suzuki produced movie that was done in CGi and not hand drawn cels. Wink


You're confusing the process. Almost all anime has its line-art drawn on paper, which is then scanned into computer for digital inking. No one, NO ONE, is hand-coloring transparent cels with ink, not even Ghibli. All coloring is done via computer, as is compositing. That's not 3DCG elements like some anime incorporate. I'm getting tired of people not knowing how the process works.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:06 pm Reply with quote
walw6pK4Alo wrote:
Mohawk52 wrote:
walw6pK4Alo wrote:
Mohawk52 wrote:
Well one thing's for sure. It'll be goodbye cels, hello CGi soon. Laughing


It's already goodbye cels, aside from the paper they draw line-art on, like pretty much every other anime that's airing.
Name me one Ghibli /Miyazaki/ Suzuki produced movie that was done in CGi and not hand drawn cels. Wink


You're confusing the process. Almost all anime has its line-art drawn on paper, which is then scanned into computer for digital inking. No one, NO ONE, is hand-coloring transparent cels with ink, not even Ghibli. All coloring is done via computer, as is compositing. That's not 3DCG elements like some anime incorporate. I'm getting tired of people not knowing how the process works.

It gets on my nerves too, and I've been following this stuff since the 80's.
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