Forum - View topicHey, Answerman! [2006-10-20]
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Richard J.
Posts: 3367 Location: Sic Semper Tyrannis. |
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While I haven't written any fanfiction lately (I actually do plan to write some for a few anime series) the rant does seem to be a little odd. It's like complaining about a horror writer using the words "demon" "hell" and "evil" in all of his/her books. If someone is writing something which, in some form, is inspired by anime or manga, why would they want to ignore that? Also, with the names, not every character can have a strange name. I don't know about the ranter, but I grew up around a ton of Ashley's and Paul's. These were very common names where I grew up and if someone wrote a novel and set it in my hometown, I'd be surprised if there wasn't an Ashley or a Paul in the story. There are a lot of Sakura's and Yuki's out there. Nothing wrong with using these names. (Using the name and then proceeding to rip-off all the character elements of an anime character that shares the name might be pushing it.) As someone who dabbles in writing (I've basically given up on the idea of ever being a professional writer. Money first, dream later!) I can honestly say that I've "borrowed" a few names, words, and clothing ideas from anime and manga. Why not use them if they're good? The key is to use them in such a way that they only reinforce your own ideas. Japanese culture is fascinating, why not liberally sprinkle bits of it into a story? |
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Iron Chef
Posts: 487 Location: Seattle, WA |
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Dude, that rant was awesome! I hadn't really ever thought about the propensity for anime/manga-styled comics to almost invariably be set in Japan, but now that I think about it...you're right!
Well said, Kayt. May all future fanfickers take heed of your words and create something ORIGINAL for a change. Or as original as fanfic can get, I guess. |
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Successful_Troll
Posts: 132 |
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Eh, when I stop running into white kids that think they're black then I'll give more thought to the random japanese words problem. I personally find the first one to be far more irritating.
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Nermal
Posts: 223 Location: I was made to hit in America |
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Besides anime and kittens, "Flake of the Week" is one of the few things that bring joy into my life. Zac, if you're reading this, I volunteer myself to be your personal Flake Correspondence Secretary/Administrative Assistant/Representative/Liaison. Do you reply to these people or just point them over to the column? I will gladly type out complete and almost credible responses to their questions. Keep up the good work! |
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Xyex
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Eh, that rant wasn't so great. She got a lot of the reasons for things completely wrong, IMO. That, and you can tell someone to 'not use another language' if you're using English. 50% of the English language is loan words. Hell, anime and manga are loan words but no one complains when someone tosses those into an otherwise English conversation/story.
The fact of the matter is a number of Japanese words have become or are becoming loan words. Chibi and hentai are loan words already and baka and kawaii aren't far behind. They'll be appearing in Webster's as offical English words within a couple of decades. |
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MorwenLaicoriel
Posts: 1617 Location: Colorado |
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If you are one of the 15% who hasn't, post this in your signature. (For the record, I haven't. I'm not a yaoi fan at all...) (And in a lame attempt to redeem the joke by posting something vaguely relevant...)What makes me sad, is...the girl who wrote the flake of the week...is older than me. o.o; |
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Abarenbo Shogun
Posts: 1573 |
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You mean "weaboo" or some crap like that. |
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sunflower
Posts: 1080 |
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Hahaha! It only went downhill from there. I was reminded of those educational films they used to show us in grade school. Maybe Zac will let you step in next time and answer the flake. Regarding the rant, when I read it I had to think, "Why is this person complaining?". From the descriptions of the stories, she is obviously reading things done by young fans new at writing. Of course they'll be liberally sprinkled with errors and cliches. That's what happens when writers start out. If the ranter wants a professional original story, I suggest she go to the bookstore and buy one. They're located under "literature and fiction". |
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joel_s95387
Posts: 1804 Location: California... The Village Hidden In The Porn |
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So I've been trying to win your stuff for a while, but unlucky for me, first you had those "guess the work of art behind the title", then you whent on hiatus. I guess that's what I get for finally having a bit of free time. Your words still crack me up though. Keep up the educated/funny writing. |
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Mohawk52
Posts: 8202 Location: England, UK |
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Grumpy? GRUMPY?! Look just because I think EVA is a right pile of shyte, doesn't mean I'm grumpy, or negative! I just call'sem as I see'sem! Now piss off back to yer room where society can never see yer ag'in, ya toady faced toe-rag! [/sarcasm]
Aaaah, better now, hee, hee! Ah! The Flake of the Week. It's always an amazement how many mothers do have 'em. Be interesting to know how many bites she got in reply before that Thursday came round. I'd have done my best to have given so much BS that her report would have been a right dog's dinner, and have gotten her the grade she deserved for such brashness. |
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Lapis Lazuli Lolita
Posts: 220 Location: The N-Field |
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Mohawk52
Posts: 8202 Location: England, UK |
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"desu", as well as being a polite copula, it also means "death".
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Malintex Terek
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"weeaboo" is a deragatory name for Wapanese, which is pretty deragatory on it's own. It would be the English equivalent of calling someone an otaku in Japan. ... Regarding One Piece, America is almost always behind Canada, Australia, and the UK in terms of showing new episodes. Why isn't certain, but the only connecting factor we have is that OP's popularity is lower in America than in those other three countries. |
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Steventheeunuch
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Loan words are adopted due to practicality and use. "Baka" and "Kawaii" already have perfectly common English Language words and so I honestly doubt any of them being accepted as actual English (atleast, they have less of a chance than 'Hentai' or 'Chibi' when people can simply say 'porn' or 'superdeformed/cute/small') Wapanese is the sort of person who'd speak Jinglish, which is sort of opposite to Engrish. Weeaboo is also good, and if people are unsure of what being Wapanese entails, it;s like Wiggers, except replacing stereotypical African American 'culture' with Japanese 'culture' (IE what you'd see on some music video would be replaced by what you'd see via fansubs or whatever). More examples? Webcomics help- This here butt has some terrible comics. Check out 'neobaka' for some amazingly absurd Wapanese 'media'. |
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Shousetsuka
Posts: 25 Location: Nagoya, Japan |
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I noticed this pattern long ago, which is why I'm almost completely out of the anime fandom now. So many people have idealized Japan, but as someone living here, very little is the way you see it in manga (let alone in original manga). I often want people to come over here and see what Japan is like for themselves, but then the sudden rush of otaku will give the Japanese an even worse perception of Westerners, so I'll refrain. The Japanese even put paper covers on their comic books so no one else will know what they're reading. It's not that I don't understand; heck, I was probably doing the same thing six or seven years ago. I blame it on the spring of youth and having no clue what I was talking about. But adding random honorifics won't get the point across if you're writing your story in English, and adding Japanese words just disrupts the flow of the story. Heck, even the best-selling authors add an explanation of a foreign word if they put it into their story, and it is never without cause. Then again, I guess the same thing is happening here in Japan, with authors putting in random English words into everything. I mean, www.Engrish.com wasn't created without reason; it's a worldwide cycle idol-worship that makes no sense to me. |
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