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ANN_Lynzee
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The translation is taken from the source article (Rocket News 24) linked at the bottom, as are the Japanese fan comments. I do think it's interesting that "When I went to Kanda Myojin shrine, I saw they were having a cross-promotional campaign with Love Live! Why did this happen?" is reading more aggressive than Viz's above, which has the more incredulous punctuation "?!"
This question has cropped up in a couple of articles. Livers is "official" in that it's either self-proclaimed by Japanese fans or by Japanese publications that use it. ANN didn't come up with it. I'm assuming it as a similar origination as "Honkers" for Honoka.
The first sentence of the article: "Love Live! superfans (Livers)" Paragraph before the quotes: "some fans thought the comment was more critical than curious." I think the article did a fair job of not making sweeping generalizations about the average fans of the show (of which there are many). Last edited by ANN_Lynzee on Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:45 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Hikarunu
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urghh since when Love Live got loli? |
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Jajanken
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OH&S
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How cute. Talk about an overreaction.  It didn't even sound like he was picking any fight.
I second the notion of Love Livers being sensitive. Though next two comments are a bit too generalized. As long as they were just focused on the original critics I would have no complaints.
Now that's taking it too far in the opposite direction.
I wonder how Love Live fans responded to one of the more recent Gintama chapters which explicitly namedropped Love Live many times? ---- This is all very strange. I swear that there was an article on Crunchyroll which said that Oda had become Love Live fan and wanted to do a collaboration with them. I guess that was a mistranslation then? --- And am I the only that chuckles at the fact the Love Live fans refer to themselves as Liv-ers? 
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48 Rices
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are you lecter or something 
Honestly, this needs to stop. I'm a fan of both series and found this very disappointing. |
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Mr. Oshawott
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Although it wasn't your intention, my sincere thanks to you for your answer. 
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Shar Aznabull
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Reading a bit too far into Oda's words there, even if part of me completely agrees. |
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Keichitsu0305
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Oh please, just mentioning the Fate series will cause a temper tantrum of massive proportions. 
At the end of the day, two fandoms of the most popular and commercially successful franchises won't cause any financial damage in the long run. Give it two more days and it'll be all over. Edit: Actually, Oda brings up a very good point. Other than location, what does Love Live! has anything to do with One Piece? This is a totally random crossover with barely any correlation. |
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DuchessBianca
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I'm a MASSIVE LL fan, probably spent about $3000+ on figures, art books, blurays, games, posters and tons of other stuff but I don't really understand the need to get this crazy or worked up over things. I know every community has those people always looking for a fight but I'm a simple person haha
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Tuor_of_Gondolin
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This seems like a "Someone said something that *could* be taken to be less than 100% behind something that I love, so I hate that person and wish he would die" kind of thing.
It's just... a little overreactive and childish. Just... a little. |
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Hmph!
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Right back at him, with the abundant of gigantic mammaries and scantily clad women in OP. |
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otagirl
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Dat misunderstanding... 
There is no crossover between LL and OP. The cross-promotion is between LL and Kanda Shrine. Livers would know the relevance of this. While I don't find anything particularly wrong with Oda's comment, it's obvious to see how people may interpret it in negative/different ways. As is evident from the comments dished out on both side of the fandoms. Otaku have always been sensitive about their hobbies and Oda should know this being part of the culture himself. I think it was rather careless of him to casually allow something like that to be printed. It's an answer he could have easily searched for on the net in a minute on his cell phone while he was there, or, even just asking one of the Miko/ staff, especially since he visited the site. Openly announcing his ignorance for a series that has a dedicated fanbase is just asking for trouble, it doesn't matter how popular or relevant you think you are. It could be seen as a sign of disrespect, of course some people won't take that very well. Not that I think the mutual slandering is appropriate. |
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TonyTonyChopper
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Well this is not really gonna go anywhere is it
I don't even know what this livers thing is just some otaku crap i don't care about it so they need need to shut up. |
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Doomroar
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The guy goes out for once, and finds out a cross-promotion that involves his product and livelihood and he knows nothing of it? of course he is going to ask why is it happening.
But chances are it was not a cross-promotion at all and she was just cosplaying, needless to say, she was indeed using his product as a mean to boost her own career anyways, in the end you can't really blame Oda, or the girl really, her team should be more careful in the future. As for the fans, man those little shits... |
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CallumKeyblade
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That doesn't make it loli? It's innocent flashbacks to their childhoods. By that reasoning every single manga or anime with a child in it is classed as a loli series... |
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