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ThatGuyWhoLikesThings
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Coming from someone who's a huge fan of Higurashi and not at all a fan of Madoka, you're pretty much wrong on that front. First off, what Higurashi does isn't even time travel. It's more along the lines of traveling to parallel worlds, in hopes of finding one that doesn't end in tragedy. What Madoka does is more akin to actual time travel. Second, unless you somehow missed that final episode, I fail to see how you came to the conclusion that Madoka's message was something as soul-crushingly nihilistic (and might I add stupidly misogynistic; I won't argue that Madoka is a feminist anime or anything like that, but come on) as that. |
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Angel M Cazares
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@EmperorBrandon
You might want to use spoiler tags. Some of us are waiting for the legal stream of Kuromukuro. |
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unready
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Noein doesn't really involve time travel. It involves the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics, in which some worlds may have evolved more quickly or more slowly than others. So the visitors aren't from the future. They're from a closely-related parallel world that evolved independently and more quickly, so our world looks like the past to them, but isn't their past. The fact that it's not the past is mentioned several times as the characters debate among themselves the significance of various events. The conceit that it's possible to travel between worlds makes it extremely implausible. Noein tries to get around that by having the bodies of the world-hoppers replaced with bodies identical to their original ones, but composed of a different type of subatomic particles. Unfortunately, Noein proceeds to blow its own basis when spoiler[Haruka, Yuu, and eventually their friends and Haruka's house get transported between worlds, despite all being composed of conventional matter]. For anyone who knows something about quantum collapse and branes, it's cool that Noein is science fiction that's actually based on science (unlike, say, everything in Star Trek from The Next Generation onward, where the writers would just insert "[technobabble]" in the scripts any time they wanted to invoke "science" and make up the words for "[technobabble]" later). Last edited by unready on Fri May 13, 2016 3:20 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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vonPeterhof
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Speaking of time travel methods, I wonder if there's an anime/manga/LN/VN that featured something similar to the one from Primer. I mean, there's gotta be at least one LN writer geeky enough to find it interesting 
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johnnysasaki
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Now and Then,Here and There should have been in this list too,shouldn't it?
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AksaraKishou
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Just noticed the thing about the name!! spoiler[ aka "No turning back" or something like this] PS:spoiler[everyone here is talking about parallel world xD] Last edited by AksaraKishou on Fri May 13, 2016 3:30 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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wolf10
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There are a few other series the article mentioned that actually use the "parallel world" conceit as well, so I don't think Higurashi's use disqualifies it from that classification.
The time travel itself was pretty much a nihilistic exercise in futility, and the rest of that ending was, well... Just imagine someone deciding that they can make all their friends happy by removing themselves entirely from their lives, and that's why I can't really see that ending as "beautiful" and "hopeful" like I'm supposed to. But it sounds to me like you objected more to the idea that a comparison could be made, so please put the axe down. We don't need to argue about this, I was just stating my own impression. |
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Videogamep
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Firstly, you should use spoiler tags for that. As for the actual issue spoiler[her death itself isn't what caused them to create the time machine. Okabe thinking she was dead and sending the first D-mail was what caused it. All that was important was that Okabe saw her lying on the floor there in what looked like blood so he would assume she was dead and send the D-mail. That's why Okabe had to do that in order to save her in the last episode. Anything else would have created the contradiction you just described.] |
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zrnzle500
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Kinda surprised this hasn't been mentioned. While the Servants in Fate are generally based on historical/mythological figures spoiler[Archer from Stay Night is actually from the future so it has 3 and in UBW has 4, what with Future Emiya wanting to change his past so he doesn't become Counter Force, which is kinda 5 in that he had to change world historic events. Or make sure they went the right way depending on your perspective]
I can see why that passage was worded that way as any other wording indicating otherwise could be considered a spoiler Last edited by zrnzle500 on Fri May 13, 2016 4:38 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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wolf10
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I think explaining the nuances of Servants as they relate to time would have taken over the entire article. spoiler[Archer] is a capital S Spoiler, though.
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ParaChomp
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I say don't judge time travel unless the impact it creates is VERY heavy.
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zrnzle500
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ArthurFrDent
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I'ma throw this one out there, because I've no idea which numbers it corresponds to...
Natsu no Arashi you've got your movements through time for various reason, but also the supernatural... huh, wonder if spoilertags are required for a 7 year old show, that seems unremebered... but. spoiler[ Immediately struck me funny how the time travel tropes, like meeting yourself coming the other way, were woven in seamlessly, and amusingly... but also how the jumps require a ghost, and a modern person to connect to... But the heart of the matter, were the relationships between people whose times are moving at different speeds. And the children of those people... ] It's interesting to think of time travel as a device to split people apart... no matter the time stream, if it's actual time or multiverse/multidimension, or any of the other reasons, it is another thing that speaks to falling out of other people's lives... or the transitory nature of lives within time. I guess for all that, Natsu no Arashi fits 4. Do Over Button, and 2. Waking up in the future. A fave that is not listed would be RahXephon. Another one about people living lives at different speeds, and trying to resolve that dilemma. |
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Agent355
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The best use of time travel in cartoons was Fry becoming his own grandpa in Futurama. What's the point of time travel if you can't get up to hilarious, incest-y shenanigans?
(See also: Back to the Future). Come to think of it, has anyone managed to become their own ancestor in anime yet?
Really enjoyed the article, and I'm very glad it had no spoilers, because I'm one of the few people who is still planning to watch Stiens:Gate...someday, probably. On a more serous note, Voices of a Distant Star is fantastic, and the manga is even better (or at least easier to understand) than the anime. |
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#856870
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Gunbuster. It's the only Anime that does it right. It's older.. a classic. Without a doubt.. worth the watch.
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