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Scherzo
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Also, if you look at the map posted earlier, which is written in english 'Fatherland' Script, you can see it's Dacia with a C, not K, by comparing it with the C in Francois Republic. The other nations labelled there are 'Vaterland', Commonwealth, and the Union of Aht (?) Socialist Republics.
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Key
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Interesting argument, and the timing of the scene where Tanya goes after the Republic mages in episode 1 seems to support that. However, time frames tend to be very fluid in anime, so I don't know that we can trust that timing. Also, that would make her 4-5x as fast as anything else in the air in that era, and she didn't give the impression of pulling away from the Republic mages that fast. The bomber pilot in episode 6 also seemed to be reacting more to her altitude than her speed. I know that someone who posted either in this thread or in the Preview Guide thread indicated that they were familiar with the source novel. If that person is still following this thread, does the book give values with specific labels? I heard that it was very technically-oriented. EDIT: Hmmm, Wikipedia specifies the max linear speed of orb users as 250 mph. I'd still want to get a clarification from the original source material, though. |
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Gina Szanboti
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^Are you talking laden or unladen mages?
Hasn't she already threatened to shoot a soldier in the face? Or something like that, can't remember which episode. If I'm misremembering, she's still used them for live bombing targets. 
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mangamuscle
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That must refer to mages not known as Tanya (the evil) since they mention also a max altitude of 6000 feet (less than 2 kms and if memory serves me right we have seen the evil pixie bordering the limits of stratospheric balloons aka the day sky was already black and not blue). Anyway 250 mph is a little more than 400 km/h.
What do you mean? (First and foremost Is Tanya) an Asian or European mage? 
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Nordhmmer
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Setting aside Tanya's(Youjo Senki's) semi realistic portrayal of 'what if' real world events and the writer keeping within his world settings rules...
Youjo Senki does play fast and loose with the specifications of real would equipment. One example would be of real world the Blériot 127/2. This aircraft had a service ceiling of 7,450m(24,440 ft) and a maximum speed of 199 km/h (124 mph). As shown in the episode,the fully loaded Blériot 127/2s were vastly outperforming their real world characteristics. Sidenotes: Tanya is capable of going over 300kph(186mph), with her experimental Type-95. Tanya's landing on the lead bomber and then tossing a hand grenade into the cockpit show two things. One She is sadistic and enjoys murder,Tanya as shown,could have easily just shot them down from range. Second was that she properly used the pull cord to activate a Stielhandgranate 24. |
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Key
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Do they ever actually specify the unit types being used anywhere in the anime? The numbers would make a lot more sense if they're in English measurements (which would have been used in Europe at that time) rather than metrics.For instance, the timing on Tanya's approach to the Republic mages in episode 1 would me more like 150 mph if taken literally, which would still be top-of-the-line (or better) flight speed for the early 1920s.
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Shiroi Hane
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In the novel, the first mention of altitude is given in thousands of feet (高度六千フィート), thereafter just numbers. I haven't managed to track down any units for speed however, just numbers.
Oh, and since I was last here I bought novel 2 as well, and "Dacia" is in one of the chapter titles, which are all written in both Japanese and English. Also worth adding that one chapter title in vol.1 is "Elinium Type 95 Operation Orb" whereas Crunchyroll have been using "Elenium" and "Computation Gem". --edit-- Although, I think the above is the only use of feet in the first two books. Metres come up in the text often. |
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Key
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If the novel used feet for distances then it's safe to assume that speed is either feet/sec or mph. The former makes more sense, as the latter would make mages twice as fast as any plane of the time.
As for the spellings, I'm inclined to believe that CR probably has it right on Elenium. Even though fictitious, that way it sounds and looks very similar to the actual element selenium. |
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Nordhmmer
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You should safely assume that the measurements given are using the metric system.
Japan does not use the Imperial system nor do the European countries, Britain being a exception. So the author has no reason to use the Imperial system
A standard mage has a top speed of 250kph/150mph and a top service ceiling of 6,000m/19685 ft and that compares with aircraft in this alternative world timeline. Tanya's type 95 operational jewel allows her speeds of over 300kph an a operational altitude of, well not spoil it, say well over 10,000 meters. |
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mangamuscle
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Yep, she likes to gloat like your average "evil" boss, she would twirl her mustache if she could have one. she is enjoying her current job a lot more than the one at HR.
Not really, "By 1872, the only principal European countries not to have adopted the metric system were Russia and the United Kingdom" and "In pre-revolutionary Europe, each state had its own system of units of measure." so outside the commonwealth and the colonies, imperial units were not widely used. |
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Shiroi Hane
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@Nordhmmer except I literally just said that the author does use feet, in black and white in the first novel. The first mention of altitude in the book is 6000 feet. The next is just 4300 with no unit, but having established feet, I see no reason to assume they would suddenly switch.
As I also said, the book also uses metric because I've seen metres come up a lot, but I've yet to discover any specific unit for speed. --edit-- Further to this, there is a later reference to altitude 12000 (高度一万二千), which is then explained to be approx. 3600 metres (メートル換算で約三千六百). Given these two data points, I definitely see no reason not to assume any reference to altitude isn't given in feet. |
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TarsTarkas
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But where is the fun it that. Sometimes things just need the personal touch. After all, they came from far away to die. So she just made it worth their sacrifice. Seriously though, war is hell. Imagine a world war, that doesn't last months but years. Many people are mentally broken by it. But if that is the life you are leading, whether by choice or conscription, sometimes you just need to find the humor in the job or else you may become one of those broken people, or just lose the will to live. |
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WatcherZer
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What kind of recap episode was 6.5? They normally fit in to three types.
*All recap with some linking narration, some scenes possibly redubbed to link together. *10% new footage, usually characters talking or being thoughtful to link together recap. *50% new footage but they didn't finish so put in some recap to bulk the episode up to proper length. |
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Blood-
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I'd say it was the first type.
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Shiroi Hane
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I think the first 25s was new footage (I can't think where it was from otherwise anyway) and there was some new linking narration between segments, all by Tanya herself. The rest was recut footage, however with some lines shifted to a different set of lipflaps.
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