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For example, women in Japan and women in America fight for equal rights in the workplace and access to affordable, quality childcare. In Japan, most women are expected to resign from their jobs when they get pregnant, because there is a general expectation that mothers should stay at home full time to raise their kids. This puts pressure on women and men, because a couple has to rely on one income to get by. One theory behind the low marriage rate in Japan is that it's just harder to support a family on a single income, so men with lower paying jobs are less "marriage-able"--which is compounded by women who push off marriage and childbearing so they won't feel pressured to give up careers they enjoy. Making the workplace more tolerant of working moms benefit both sexes.

In America, women are not expected to give up their jobs, but they are expected to use up all their sick days for maternity leave in most jobs, and balancing work & family in America is especially hard (when compared to European countries) because child care is more expensive than it is in Europe, and there are less subsidies (approximately $9,000/yr+ in most states, and more than the average yearly cost of college tuition). Again, one could argue that fighting for better quality, more affordable childcare benefits women more than men, but only in that mothers are still expected to provide the bulk of childcare compared to fathers. In reality, it benefits everybody (especially kids).

Why would women want to be "equal" to men when men are also oppressed and constrained by sexist social structures?

Because the argument is that it's men keeping these sexist patriarchal structures up and running, and they all benefit greatly from this status quo.

BodaciousSpacePirate, Nausicaä is perhaps 1 of the ultimate anime girls that feminists could enjoy. She is also 1 of those characters that can be deemed "hot" or "sexy" without being the standard fan-service hot/sexy.

...why does this comic sound like a guy who was tired getting rejected by women and decided to create a "vengeful" world where shallow men like him have the freedom to treat women as crap?

The idea that feminism is only concerned with how patriarchy impacts half of the human race simply doesn't hold water.

BodaciousSpacePirate wrote:

The idea that feminism is only concerned with how patriarchy impacts half of the human race simply doesn't hold water.

You have met some radically different feminists than I have it would seem. Calls to ban certain female depictions in media aimed at men doesn't seem that benefitial to men In my opinion.

I get that feminists don't like fanservice but the idea that only the things they like have the right to exist is the mentality of a tyrant.

Chrono1000 wrote:

I get that feminists don't like fanservice but the idea that only the things they like have the right to exist is the mentality of a tyrant.

Lesbian Bear Storm is one of the most feminist anime ever made, and naked teenage girls lick "nectar" off each others' lower bodies about once an episode (in a way that makes Kill la Kill's fanservice look tame), so maybe this "war on fanservice" you're talking about isn't quite a universally-agreed upon thing.

That's not true. Feminists fight to change the perception that feminine jobs--from taking care of ones own children to careers like social work, teaching and nursing--are actually egalitarian jobs.

Whose argument?

Agent355 wrote:

That's not true. Feminists fight to change the perception that feminine jobs--from taking care of ones own children to careers like social work, teaching and nursing--are actually egalitarian jobs.

I really don't believe that at all. I don't see any government grants, special scholarships or gender quotas to get men into careers that are dominated by women.

Just because the government isn't doing anything about it doesn't mean it's not part of the feminist agenda.

The feminist movement certainly does more for breaching stereotypes and gender roles that affect both men and women than men complaining about feminism

The big F has LITERALLY created a gender stereotype of men being toxic oppressors that want to crush everyone beneath their heels. It's called the concept of the "patriarchy."

The big F has LITERALLY created a gender stereotype of men being toxic oppressors that want to crush everyone beneath their heels. It's called the concept of the "patriarchy." How do you even try to "dismantle" gender roles while ascribing all the world's evil to one of the sexes?

For example, patriarchy isn't just "women who get married are expected to quit their careers and pump out babies, so unmarried women are considered to have less career advancement potential than unmarried men", it's also "a husband who make less money than his wife is a failure as a man". The former negatively impacts women more than men, but the latter negatively impacts everybody.