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S0crates
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I think the Western Sony division has to create an 18++ category, like Steam did, so this issue will be gone forever. People will second guess getting a PS5 now if the Japanese market is more fluid and free on PC than consoles. When you sell stuff like GTA then this shouldn't be an issue at all in my eyes, but we live in a strange timeline.
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GNPixie
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That's what the 17+/ M rating is for but the ESRB ratings have never been properly enforced which is why most folks don't allow stuff like the AO rating. There's nothing preventing kids from fubbing dates and all. It's been an issue since the ESRB was formed in response to stuff like MK and Night Trap. Take the original Halo for instance. Outside of the Flood, nothing in that game warranted an M and it was still an M. |
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I_Drive_DSM
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The thing is there is nothing in Senran Kagura that warrants an AO rating by the ESRB. Both GTAV and RDR by Rockstar for example have graphic depictions of sex, uncensored nudity, not even divulging into the absurd amount of realistic violence, and both were given M. GTAV more than anything should have AO slapped all over it's cover. If both of those games get M, then even a full uncensored version of anything Senran Kagura should not even be considered towards ESRB's AO the slightest in the least. The elephant in the room that no one at Sony wants to acknowledge is that GTAV and RDR were AAA titles that brought huge amounts of money and something like Senran Kagura is niche', so it gets picked on of course. If everyone was clamoring over Senran Kagura and it was set to bring a ridiculous amount of money things would be different.
I was fine with a few things altered with Senran Kagura. I've noticed the big things in both Peach Beach Splash and Estival Verses is that years of birth were removed. Honestly I was ok with that. Also ultimately the large censor clouds are atypical - and to be fair somewhat humorous - but I do wish even those would have been removed. My thing with all of this is I feel it sets a very dangerous precedent for any current games. Some recent issues with licensing of music and such showed that relatively modern games, even going back to the PS3, can be retroactive changed to reflect lapses and updates to their licenses. While copyright and outright censorship are two different things if a publisher has the ability to be forced to retroactively remove music from titles then what is stopping a console developer to updating their censorship policies retroactively? I would say it's incredibly far fetched, but so were my thoughts of Sony ever actually forcing this sort of censorship on both Senran Kagura and games like Omega Labyrinth when GTAV is still allowed to exist as it does. At any point Sony could be like "Hey -publisher-, you have to apply an update patch to reflect our new policies." That could really ruin a lot of niche' titles. |
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CatSword
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So essentially, Sony demanded a version of the game that would satisfy no one?
Fans of Senran Kagura don't want a censored product and aren't going to be offended by the Intimacy Mode. Non-fans of Senran Kagura don't want any of the game. |
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Beatdigga
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Whether you’re a fan of the mechanic or not and, trust me, it’s easy to view it as juvenile and kinda sad, it’s still censorship. Censorship helps no one.
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CrownKlown
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I would counter SOA argument by saying if you think this content is so objectionable, why does your parent company allow the release of the game on any play station unit. You are playing a very dangerous game by selectively policing one group of people while overlooking it for another.
Will this at least have an Asia release that is uncensored, id probably pick up that. |
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Nyghtwynd
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This sort of thing very rarely happened with Sony when Andrew House was with the company. Literally all this recent censoring and cancelling of Japanese games like this and OLZ have happened after he left the company.
Might be a coincidence but to me it seems House was making sure censoring didn;t happen often. |
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Chrono1000
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Raoku
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Really sucks for people who dont have a good enough computer for the steam version and can only get the Ps4 version because they want to play the game.(mainly referring to myself)
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Greed1914
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Even though I haven't played these games, I'm tempted to buy a Steam copy.
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BadNewsBlues
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It also had a mechanic that let you spray the girls with different color liquids.....which I don't think I need to explain what the colors of said liquid were suppose to simulate.
I find this curious considering that while this mode has more or less been around since probably Estival Versus it was never a big important element to the games in general. So if people are cancelling their preorders over this that says more about their habits than Sony's policies.
You mean the same Nintendo that's been involved in the editing of various games released on their systems even into the modern era? Last edited by BadNewsBlues on Sat Oct 13, 2018 5:00 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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IanC
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Wasn't that the quote they used when it came to not allowing cross-console play, when Nintendo, frigging Nintendo, allowed it? And of course Nintendo allowed the western release of a spin off Senran Kagura game which was basically this feature turned to one hundred… |
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Estelle the White Mage
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Considering DOAX3 never got released in the west with how popular that series was, I'm doubtful Sony will change their mind to uncensor this title...
Bought every Senran Kagura game up to this point (with the exception of the new Switch one since I don't own that console). Will not be getting this one it seems. At least I saved myself $80. |
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MaskOfBrutality
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While I agree the feature was never that important (only used to get trophies) I'd say its more about the principle of being against censorship at all. You give an inch they take a mile as they say. It's a slippery slope and people are rightly angry about it. |
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NeoStrayCat
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Pretty much "I_Drive_DSM" said in the first paragraph is mostly true, as its a messed up double standard and very hypocritical, western titles get a free pass, while eastern titles don't, namely fanserviced Anime styled games for example. As it is, this "new policy" of Sony's that's going for is already going off the deep end.
Either way, while I don't play SK in general (other than Homura in Nitro+ Blasterz), I can understand people's thoughts on this, however. After OLZ's cancellation overseas, it was a matter of time that this BS policy of theirs spreaded later on, and its going to bite them back for Sony sooner or later, unless otherwise. |
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