Forum - View topicINTEREST: Yaoi Paddle Kickstarter Aims to Revitalize Anime Fandom History
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Tokimemofan
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Forgive me for not being able to stop laughing. One of the most obnoxious vendors I’ve ever encountered complains that someone else is trying to remake their most obnoxious product.
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CaperCA#t
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And what exactly is wrong with glomping!?! The act of just hugging someone with a little kick in your step. A spread of affection with no ill-intention? To suggest a simple common and innocent activity like that bad. What is up with that. |
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Electric Wooloo
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Are you seriously asking what's so bad about unsolicited and surprise physical contact from strangers? |
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Kyiev
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That's what you get when you trying to steal and make money out of it you criminal
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Stampeed Valkyrie
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While I would also prefer this specific item of infamy to remain buried. From a copyright perspective I have my doubts. The paddle design as a generic item is public domain, the terms Yaoi and Yuri are also public domain. While there may be an issue creating an exact replica of the previous item, any changes could be considered derivatives including font changes and word play changes. Not to mention the admitted fact that the items are now long out of production, there are examples of court leniency because of just the last part.
On the flip side the original creator or assumed creator is doing the right thing as well, because Copyright is use it or lose it. They would need to defend it, and possibly now even provide evidence that they were the original creator. Regardless, just let Yaoi paddles stay dead. |
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Greed1914
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I'm reminded of a story from Greg Ayres about him being glomped at a convention when he happened to be at the top of a flight of stairs. Both he and the glomper proceeded to tumble down those stairs. |
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TarsTarkas
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Ah, they should have just made the spiked club from Bludgeoning Angel Dokuro-chan. It would be a new item, and have a lot more interest at conventions, than the out of date Yaoi paddles.
Oh, I forgot, con attendees can sing "Pipiru-piru-piru-pipiru-pii" while waving the clubs around. |
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enurtsol
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That's trademark - use it, defend it, or lose it |
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whiskeyii
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Oh my God. Look, my first con was in 2006, so I was aware of Yaoi paddles and how people used them, but never actually saw them used that way (only visibly carried as fandom badges of pride, basically). But glomping? Good looooord, was *that* ever a thing. Just random-ass tackle-hugs out of nowhere from complete strangers, TO complete strangers. It could be because you were a celebrity (I’ll never forget a panel from then up-and-coming Monica Rial about how you should give voice actors some friggin’ SPACE, y’all, as she recounted how one fan slipped a piece of paper under a toilet stall for her to autograph), or it could just be that you cosplayed as someone’s favorite character, and they’d decided to express their enthusiasm by…possibly physically wrecking your hard-earned costume. It did eventually die down to the point that as I was filtering out of the con scene a few years later, people were starting to learn to *ask* for hugs, photos, what-have-you, but the sheer rampant freedom to just physically launch yourself at a complete stranger with almost zero social consequences cannot be understated. It was truly wild. |
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Anne F
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Oh goodness. That person definitely did not think this through. I had to laugh at them asking people to not misuse them. Like, were they actually expecting people to adhere to their request because that wasn't going to happen. That's quite the optimistic request. lol Maybe some people wouldn't misuse them, but come on. Let's be realistic here. I could see them being a new tiktok trend and we just don't need these things being well, a thing again.
While I'm not really in the con scene anymore, I started going to cons in 2003 and I remember both the yaoi paddles (I can still hear the Hen Da Ne guy shouting across the dealers hall) and glomping being the absolute worst. Let both stay dead please. |
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Cutiebunny
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Most of this I chalk up to groups of teenagers doing dumb things. Not that I agree that non-consensual smacking is ever a good idea, but when you're young, dumb and around alcohol and other substances at conventions, good judgment often goes out the window and gives rise to a lot of really dumb stuff. Just think of some of the dumb things you might have done during the under-21 phase of your life.
Having attended YaoiCon for a number of years, I have never seen anyone non-consensually smack anyone else. I know it's called a yaoi paddle but I've seen far more non-consensual touching at Anime Expo or any other non-yaoi affiliated conventions. |
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Greed1914
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The yaoi paddle experience at the convention I used to go to went like this: paddles are sold at dealer room, after a few conventions where people were getting worse about not smacking people with them a rule was made that they could be sold, but smacking would not be tolerated. After trying that once, they banned them entirely because some people, apparently, could not control themselves, even with a rule that risked them getting booted.
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Aresef
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Dude says he wants to “keep it wholesome” when there’s nothing wholesome about these things.
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Tempest
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They can forbid you from replicating their design for at least 50 years after they produced it, probably longer.
According to Akicafe, Hen Da Ne bought the rights from Akicafe. Assuming the copyrights were properly transferred (eg: there's a proper contract transferring the copyright for the design from Akicafe to Hen Da Ne) then Hen Dan Ne does indeed "own" the copyright and can indeed stop people from ripping off the design they "own." But they only own the design, not the concept. Just make it slightly different. Find out if they have a trademark for the term "Yaoi Paddle," if they do you can't use that term, but you can make paddles with a different design, write Yaoi on them and call them "Yaoi Sticks." |
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russ869
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How do you patent a piece of wood?
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