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CCSYueh
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Yaoi isn't gay porn. Yaoi is more like Oh My Goddess-stories about beautiful boys in love written by women who often comment about how little experience they have with any real-life men. THe models for their characters are often friends, brothers, tv. I remember one who commented on visiting a gay bar with her editor in the name of research. Last edited by CCSYueh on Fri Dec 07, 2007 1:43 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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GTO Neko
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Real interesting to hear back what some people have to say about the answers once again.
I gotta say first and foremost about the whole perfect woman thing...whatever is your ideal woman is YOUR ideal woman. She can be built, petite, nice, independent, supportive, WHATEVER!!!! There's always going to be some faults going on that some people may not like while others may like and that's ok, because that's how one feels. I may not agree with it or I could agree with it, it shouldn't matter for one damn minute since it's one's preference. As far as the old joke thing, sometimes, it's good to be reminded of an old joke after an "X" amount of time, but if it's something that gets pushed over and over and over again, then I can definitely see where the gripe comes in. Finally, the debate of taking off titles/censoring. It's been hit head on about how certain titles, unfortunately, still cannot be brought over with the way that there are still alot of "influential" groups that try to attack the whole genre of anime and manga over a single title, much like how people are so easy to blame all of video games over a single title. At least, hopefully, one of the main enemies of games, Jack Thompson, is getting closer and closer to getting disbarred so we don't have to worry about him anymore, but there are still others who'll be "watchdogs for the American people" who'll try and get things banned or made into laws that'll mess things up for everyone. There, I said my piece and hopefully, some order may be restored. 
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
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Excuse the hell out of me? Please point to when I EVER said ANYTHING of the sort. I am strongly in favor of gay rights. I hope you understand how deeply insulted and upset I am that you would say this; to me, this is borderline libel. Please double-check what you're saying before you decide to completely, utterly and totally misquote and misrepresent someone else's views. |
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britannicamoore
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Theres more than just the yaoi like 'Gravitation' or 'Boys Love to Be close to one another after midnight.' Ever heard of the Gravitation Remixes? If that is not hardcore gay porn I don't know what is. |
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TheBigN
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On the Kanno vs. Kajiura front: It's all a matter of taste, but I guess because they're two composers that a lot of people know, they were pitted against each other for no reason. I like both composers, but I think because Kanno tends to venture out into new things, her stuff can be very hit or miss. As Kajiura has little variation on her style, the only hit or miss there seems to be if you like her style or if you don't. Either way, if both of them ever corroborated on one project, I think the collective result would rock socks off. :3
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tasogarenootome
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Hey Answerman, thanks for opening old wounds and then running off to NYAF... just kidding, sorry.
Though I do think next week in lieu of a column you should just sum up stuff from your NYAF panels. Seriously, I wish ANN would post videos of their panels online, since I always seem to miss them. *pouts* As for the column this week, interesting to see whether or not you changed your views. I agree, I liked OMG/AMG all right, but I had too many guy friends in college who vehemently defended Belldandy as the perfect role model for women. Yes, the women in various shonen and shoujo anime aren;'t perfect, they are always cute or sexy, nor are they always realistic. But I can relate far better to Sakura obnoxiously squabbling over a guy or Orihime than eternally patient, self-sacrificing Belldandy anyday. That's not to say she's a bad character, but I can't see her carrying AMG by herself without having Skuld and Urd to play straight man for. As for Kajiura and Kanno, I have both on my NaNoWriMo play list, it just depends on my mood for which I pick... |
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Berserkfury819
 Posts: 229 Location: Detroit Mi. Spider-Man is dead. R.I.P. |
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Speaking of Chuck Norris, Presidential candidate Mike Huckabee has been officialy endorsed by him.
Nymphet got pulled because Seven Seas realized that they had a potential disaster on their hands and would probably lose a lot of money on it, not to mention the backlash it would cause if the mainstream media got wind of the controversy. As liberal as America is, sexualizing children is still generally frowned upon. (gives eviltimes a smile and a BIG thumbs up) |
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CCSYueh
Posts: 2707 Location: San Diego, CA |
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Zac-
Sorry. I could have sworn you said something about being against the marriage bit (During a Nymphet thread so I'm not going to plow thru all those pages again). Maybe I confused you with another mod.
You obviously don't. When CPM launched Be Beautiful at Comic-con they commented when they first planned to license a yaoi anime they screened it for what they thought was the intended audience-gay males-& it went over like a lead balloon. What appeals to men & what appeals to women aren't necessarily the same thing whether the person is gay or straight. It's often said guys are leg-men or into breasts while women are attracted by the eyes & other things. A gay guy can still have a guy sensibility that a manga written by a woman writing for a female audience doesn't reach. Yes, just as gals can like shonen & guys can like shojo, it doesn't mean gay guys can't like yaoi-they can & straight guys can also like yaoi, but the selling points being different means it's not really aimed at the gay audience. It's porn for gals to drool over on one extreme or harlequin romance on the other Have I seen Gravi Remix? I know someone who has & what she said has made it so I don't want to see it (no plot-just sex). That interview with Murakami also where she said she likes drawing smut to the point she'd constantly minutes away from quitting to do doujinshi all the time also supports that, but it's still by a woman targeting a female audience. At Be Beautiful's launch, the editor was very definite in expressing her opinion that yaoi is about impossibly beautiful men in love I have some doujinshi I've bought at con. I know someone who dropped over $800 on yaoi doujinshi this last July at Comic-con(including one of the Gravi Remixes which were over-priced compared to the other titles. The seller did compliment the person on her sellections). It's still drawn with a shojo sensibility |
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Shadowrun20XX
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Watch the series,read the Manga.Kusanagi is a shell,a robot so to speak.Not a woman.I know it's hard not to see the shell as female. Sorry I'm a big fan is all. |
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britannicamoore
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So what does any of that have to do with it not being gay porn? Because it still is gay porn. Not all Yaoi has to be softcore or just scenes with butterflies. I'm not saying all Yaoi is hardcore but gay porn is in most cases yaoi. Last I heard smut and porn almost went hand in hand...unless you're talking about corn. I've met a few gay male anime fans (which was just all types of fun) and they read yaoi. As the guy in question said: "It will never happen to me that way but to dream of it would be nice" Sadly he was talking about a man doing to him something like the Gravi remixes and that was the weirdest conversation in a coffee shop i've ever had. Or have I completely misinterpreted your statement? Last edited by britannicamoore on Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:23 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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Wow, such an enlightened and educated opinion. Please tell me you have no intentions of breeding.
And of course all yoai content is just like this right? Yaoi is not porn end of story. Hentai is animated porn. Now hentai can have homosexual situations but regardless it is still hentai. You're obviously confusing the two. |
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fighterholic
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Technically yaoi is gay porn, you're thinking more of the shotacon type series, or boys love series too. When it comes down to it everybody these days is taking all of the series and throwing it into the yaoi genre, when technically yaoi only stands for the hardcore porn type series. |
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Seif
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Isn't Shounen Ai the boy's love story you're talking about whilst Yaoi is the more hardcore sexual varation? Given, yaoi is a catch-all term, but isn't being porn what seprates the two?
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abunai
Old Regular
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There speaks ignorance. Kusanagi Motoko is not a robot, she's a cyborg. There's a human brain, and a genuine, feeling person inside that machine body. She's a crippled woman in a full-body prosthetic, in other words. Seems to me you haven't been reading the manga or watching the anime. Which obviously doesn't stop you from commenting. Though it should. - abunai |
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Murasakisuishou
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Her body is 'robotic', but she's still a woman inside, and an extremely strong-willed woman to boot. I think that possibly one of her strongest points is that she's so comfortable being herself inside that shell that she chooses to keep it and wear the ridiculously slutty outfits (not that I'm complaining about those). EDIT: I got up while writing and abunai beat me :p Last edited by Murasakisuishou on Fri Dec 07, 2007 2:48 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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