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DonQuigleone
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What the hell is "correlation diagram" and "character's item" under character? Gotta dig that engrish...
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Labbes
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After seeing the first episode, I am looking forward to the series. Even if the storyline and characters should be uninteresting, the visuals might be good enough to keep me watching. And Ranka rocks
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Kabuto Tokugawa
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Macross Frontier's first episode was excellent IMHO.
Loved the Valkyre combat scenes and the new UN Spacy ships. The characters were a welcomed change from some of the M7 ones (Basara in particular). Macross is an excellent anime franchise. I highly recommend it to anyone who likes space epics/sagas or mecha anime in general. Though one word of caution, Macross 7 is a bit...flashy. Some of you will like it, some of you will definitely hate it, and like me, some of you will think...oh well, C'est la vie! M7 is long, 53 episodes plus an OAV series. If you can only fit in time for a few of the Macross series than allow me to reccomend the ones that most people at MacrossWorld find to be the best. Macross (the original series, it's a must) Macross Plus Macross Zero and now Macross Frontier Macross the movie is good but if you really want to learn about this anime world the original series lays down most of the necessary groundwork. Macross 2 is also pretty good but it is considered to be an "Parallel universe" according to Egan Loo's Macross Compendium and not necessary to watch to understand the series.[/url] |
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kizzmequik_74
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Ooooh, yeah. I know what you mean. It took me a couple of minutes to pick up my jaw from the floor when I saw that scene... Then I went back and watched the scene a couple more times. On the episode titles: that put a smile in my face. Maybe, just maybe, spoiler[Ranka's gonna perform Ai, Oboete Imasuka? on that episode... Which may mean that a single with the Kanno/Nakajima version on it may be coming sooner than we think!] And, Rie Tanaka and Aya Hirano as bridge bunnies? Sweet. There's another woman there, plus that Bobby Margo character. I REALLY hope that they turn out to be good (funny, witty, cute) bridge bunnies. On the size of the Frontier and the school issue, consider that the New Macross-class ships (and their companion fleets) have a capacity of up to a million people (probably more, looking at the sheer number of other ships in the Frontier's fleet). Meaning, you'd have to educate at least a couple of hundred thousand people. IRL, a mid-to-large-sized university which serves all levels of education would have a capacity of more than 20,000 students. So, definitely, there would be loads and loads of schools there, assuming that the Frontier and its fleet are anywhere near capacity. Just one thing bothered me about my latest re-watch of the first episode: why didn't the Frontier just shell-down when the final defense line was breached? And where in blazes are the Destroids? Is it plot-induced tactical stupidity? Hmmmm. 
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DonQuigleone
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Can't speak for the plot induced stupidity,
On the schools thing, the main weird element about it is that it's fairly unusual in anime for more than one school to be present, that said school age teens aren't particularly central to the plot, however you would think purpled haired girl (what's her name?) and Ranka would probably be in the same school considering they have the same job and seem to be freinds |
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Jedi General
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I just finished watching Do You Remember Love? earlier this morning and I loved it. Having watched that wonderful movie, I cannot wait to watch the original series since it is much more fleshed out. I'll also be watching Plus later followed by Zero (which was animated by Satelight, w00t!). As for the premiere episode: you're right. Not having to watch it gives us time to catch up on the Macross franchise. 
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Westlo
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I hope you got the remastered version of DYRL :wink: I just got that version myself yesterday, gorgeous. Also if you love the movie you're in for a treat with the series, characters like Roy, Maxmillian and Millia are so much better in the series.
Also I'm watching the premiere version so I can see what gets cut out from the previously aired director's cut (that's what ANN called it in the news section back in December). 27 minutes... so it will lose 2... Plus is awesome, I hope you enjoy it. I've already rewatched the scenes set to Information High (awesome insert song, not done by Kanno) and Dogfight (one of Kanno's best battle themes, the way it builds up is superb) a few times today, I'll say it again but the battle on earth is awesome between those two leads.
I just watched that scene again, and again and again. [expletive] awesome. As for your spoiler I really, really hope so. And yes the bridge bunnies have to be awesome! I love the 3 in SDF Macross.
People on Suki said they saw several um... additional containers (not the right word...) that can hold another 100,000 people. In other words Frontier is jam packed.
Destriods got retired well before Frontier and I think the military underestimated these opponents. Obviously some people on Frontier expected them but I guess they didn't get the word out to everybody. |
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kizzmequik_74
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True, in a lot of anime where school-age characters comprise the majority, other schools only exist as rivals (whether in terms of sports or gang/delinquent fighting). There are also instances of characters' previous schools being mentioned, but most of them are pretty much done in an offhand, non-plot-impacting manner. About Ranka and Nanase, maybe it's just that the producers decided to place them in different schools just to underscore the sheer size of the Frontier. Or maybe for all we know, Ranka is actually in middle school. 0_o
But, since you mentioned school-age teens, this would probably mark the first time that characters in that demographic who actually go to school have a major role in a Macross series. Why is it that a very nasty picture of a visual novel adaptation suddenly came into my mind?
And I think that the "correlation diagram" in the official site's characters section is actually a relationship chart thingy, just made unnecessarily complicated. 
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Westlo
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I remember when word on Frontier first leaked and the word high school was mentioned, poor Kawamori took a beating online that day. Anyway doesn't Alto go to a military academy/school? Didn't Nanase go there too? The one with the Macross like main guns for the building? Ranka might go to a proper school with Alto and Nanase are going to a military academy. Guess things will get cleared up shortly though. |
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kizzmequik_74
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Yup, Alto and company go to the same school as Nanase (Miboshi Academy High?). I don't actually read it as a military academy, though. It feels a bit too... Relaxed. Plus, there's a line of dialogue that asks if Alto is going to join the military after he graduates: such a question would suggest that joining the military is not exactly the norm for graduates of that school, which in turn suggests that it isn't exactly a military academy (whose primary purpose would likely be to produce graduates who will then join the military). Either way, you're right, it will get cleared up in a few weeks' time.
Looking at the flyby scene around two minutes in, I could count 18 of those containers (which actually look to me like open-type colonies from UC Gundam, sans solar panels)... Which would definitely push the fleet's capacity WAY over the Macross 7-stated one million. If their estimates are right, that means that the capacity of the fleet would be over 2 million people.
Gaaaah, sorry about the idiotic mention of Destroids. I totally forgot that they weren't even in active service during the mid 2040s (Macross 7). It's just that their role as the final line of defense in the original series seemed to be very sensible. Well, the military in Macross has never been the sharpest tools in their shows, to be honest. And, upon further thought, doing a shell-down is actually a pretty big decision, so it makes quite a bit of sense that they didn't. |
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DonQuigleone
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Awww, no Destroids? I liked the destroids, sometimes they were cooler than the valkyries.
On a completely different note, where are the Zentradi? spoiler[Or are they completely integrated by now (I haven't seen passed Plus, so I can't be sure...)] Edit: Other interesting things to note: Ozma seems to know Michael and the gang are working at the concert, Also isn't it weird that ozma is surprised to see Ranka at the concert when he gave her the tickets. |
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Kabuto Tokugawa
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spoiler[ AFAIK, the Zentraedi are completely assimilated by the Earth culture into what becomes known as the New Unity Government. One of the main characters in Macross plus is a Zentraedi-Halfbreed named Guld Goa Bowman (he pilots the VF-22 SturmVogel prototype [YF-21]). The addition of this character in Macross Plus appears to be to emphasize that there is prejudice among the human population against Zentraedi and Maeltrandi and their offspring of "Peace-Children." It also seems to imply that there has been a great deal of crossbreeding between the Earth and Zentraedi populations since 2010 AD. Macross Flashback 2012 also alludes that much of the Zentraedi fleet left with the early colonization missions of the Megaroad class of colony ships. So that explains why there are so few Zentraedi warships in the UN Spacy forces of the 2050s. Although a Neo-Nupetiet Vergnitzs Bis [Zentraedi Flagship a la robotech] does make an appearence in Macross 7 I believe. ] I hope that adequately answers your inquiry.
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kizzmequik_74
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I think that Ozma and Ranka are actually related (they share the same surname), plus it was actually Ozma who Ranka was talking to on the phone (btw, I WANT that frog-looking phone) during the Nyan Nyan scene.
On the Zentradi question: I dunno, really. I don't think anyone in the current main cast have been explicitly mentioned as a Zentradi (or part-Zentradi). I'd bet that they've already been integrated fully into human society by this time, or the production staff just forgot to write them into the first episode. Anyway, in Macross 7 spoiler[there is a half-Zentradi main character (Mylene), three full Zentradi in the immediate supporting cast (Milia, Veffidas, and Exedol), a sizable Zentradi population in the fleet itself, and at least one fleet with a majority Zentradi population (Macross 5 fleet).] Aside from that, one of 7's extra episodes spoiler[(Fleet of the Strongest Women) suggests that there are still quite a number of loose Zentradi fleets around. Considering that the Bodolza fleet was just one of many, it's likely that there are still more than a few Zentradi fleets out there, since space IS very big. :3] Either way, there's bound to be a couple of Zentradi around in Frontier, maybe Ranka is one, lol (hey, she DOES have green hair ).
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Westlo
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I think Ozma was surprised at seeing Ranka on tv not because she was there... more so "what is she doing on tv"!
Also in regards to Zentradi + main characters in this show spoiler[I think Michael is part Zentradi] |
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BrothersElric
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Cool! I've got DYRL downloading right now alongside Plus, and from the looks of things I should be getting around to watching it today. Should be good stuff. After that it'll be Plus and then Zero one after the other, which both should be very easy to get through since it's only a combination of like, 9 episodes. Not sure when I'll watch the 39 episode original, but I will at some point anyways. It's a bit daunting, especially since I want to eventually get around to watching the Shaman King anime (reading the manga right now, truly, truly good stuff ), but 39 episodes shouldn't be too bad.
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