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 Posts: 53 Location: Texas |
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Know what? Not so long ago, almost half the movies carried in Suncoast we 're for an older mature audience. This was long before anime became more mainstream, of course. I knew this day was comming, and I'm afraid it's only the beginning.
Where as most of the people who used to buy anime was dedicated hardcore anime fans, now we have almost half of anime fans being little kids or someone not far from it wanting the latest Dragon Ball Z, Digimon, Pokemon or any other kind of crappy kids show you can think of. Anime is no longer viewed as entertainment for older kids (20-30ish). It's supposed to be acceptable for all audiences. It's supposed to be ok for little Timmy or Sally to watch. So what happens when some stupid parent buys their kid Ninja Scroll, thinking it's gotta be ok, because it's anime and it seems fine what they watch on the Cartoon Network. Outrage, of course. Animation isn't supposed to be like this. I blame the mainstream success of anime on the Cartoon Network and other channels for giving people the wrong impression on what anime is all about. People who arn't real anime fans are too stupid to realize or accept the fact that anime is for all different age groups, just like some movies are for young people and some arn't. I expect all anime with just a hint of violence to be removed before it's to long. Maybe anything 13 or over might not be safe to carry. As long as it's to protect the children, that's all that matters. Longtime anime fans, who we 're the backbone of this industry for years, are the losers today. We 're ignored now as though we don't exist in a lot of ways. We 're yesterdays garbage now. If we even dare gripe or complain about anime becomming to mainstream or being watered down, we 're labled just a small minority of grouchy fanboys with no lives and nothing better to do. Yes, thats what longtime dedicated fans who really care about or used to care about this industry are these days. I say to hell with 'em *goes off to watch La Blue Girl* |
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littlegreenwolf
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Well, I was happy about finally being able to get manga and anime easily now, but used to not being able to find the titles I wanted all in one place. This isn't going to change anything from me. Anything I can't find in a store I'll just order online.
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Dalhectar
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I think most people will. There are plenty of other places besides Suncoast to buy overpriced DVDs and Manga.
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SkullKnight
 Posts: 317 Location: Deep South |
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I completely agree, I have a suncoast replay membership and quite frankly it doesn't help all that much, its still expensive.
I end up ordering from roberts corner store or the other affiliates on this site. I"m trying to sell some dvds and I'm still looking around for a good place. market value for anime after opening it sucks. I've never seen the titles at the local suncoast here that were mentioned. Maybe they assumed it being the bible belt down here and all. In plain view are the playboy videos, it doesn't make sense. I regard pb as being nothing special, its boring if you ask me. |
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Tony K.
 SubscriberModerator  Posts: 11304 Location: Frisco, TX |
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So, they're removing mature manga, but keeping the mature anime? That's just weird. But, I guess since manga is easier to access without actually paying for it, naughty little kids can get their hands on it without mommy or daddy knowing eh?
And yes, it is the responsability of the parents to keep an eye on their children, and raise them right! 
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ShellBullet
 Posts: 1051 Location: I hit things, with my fist. |
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And you think think it's a bad thing that anime is no longer seen as just another style of pornography?
Plenty of anime are acceptable for all audiances, most in fact.
They have an eye-opening experiance.
 You mean anime is not about a bunch of geeky fanboys obsessing over their favorite hero/mecha/vixen. I never knew! On TV they show series that are popular not just here, but in Japan as well, mostly unedited in the case of AS and Tech TV. I think people can get a pretty good idea of what anime is all anout by watching these sources, at least when it comes to shonen.
Are you joking are are you really paranoid enough to think that there is some sort of "big brother" plot to censer anime? Lighten up, it aint happening anytime soon.
Yes we lose out on so many levels: like seeing anime prices reach record lows, having greater variety of dometic releases, and being able to check out anime for free on T.V. And if you're upset because they cut out a two second breast shot or slightly increased the blur in a certain scene of FLCL, remember that such a scene NEVER makes the differance between a good show and a bad one.
No one outside of the fandom community would say that, outsiders don't even care enough about such complaints to have an opinion about them! Get your head out of the sand, mainstreaming is the best thing that ever happend to anime. It provided much needed revenue to a languishing Japanese market and introduced many Americans to the genre. you have to remember that anime is the product of mainstream Japanese culture; perhaps the most shallow pop culture in the world (gotta love 'em though).
Fine, go watch La Blue Girl and don't bother us with such pointless ranting!
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himiko-chan
Posts: 26 Location: NJ |
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I'll second that. It's been at least 4 or 5 months since I noticed that there were suddenly no volumes of HappyMania to be found on the manga rack at Suncoast. |
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ZODDGUTS
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Heh I've given up on Suncoast their anime/manga section has decrease . I now buy anime at Bestbuy which is cheaper by the way and buy manga at my comic book store.
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JJR
Posts: 12 Location: Omaha, NE |
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Ah, I love hopeless speculation. Well anyways, I think from the information my manager has let me know I can at least try to shed a little light out there for a few of you.
1) Mature Manga being pulled from Suncoast - True as it was done in late December. I will admit that a few titles may still be in circulation due to special orders not being picked up or inventory counts being off, however the majority have been sent back to distro for special order needs. 2) Why is x title not in my Suncoast or Why is the anime section shrinking at my Suncoast? Moreless its all dependent on sales. If it moves, your store gets more anime. If it doesn't, well the section slowly kinda shrinks. Every month we get a print out of what slower performing titles (or ones that we have too many of) to send back to distro. While I am not for certain and all, but I believe the algarithm is that a title needs to be sold every 4 or 6 months before it gets shipped to another store. (but then, I even admit thats not always followed by the system) 3) Hentai Pulls - I will admit it - thank the parents. We had our January preview disc pulled due to what was "Obsessive Violence" in the Berserk preview and well this was kinda one of those issues where you never win. 4) Playboy vs Hentai - Softcore vis Animated Hardcore. You get the picture. We get paid by Playboy to actually have their signage up, so that might be a factor but in my opinion, people generally feel that Playboy is a more tasteful publication/video than per say any of that "cartoon porn". (note sarcasm) I'm quite intreged in why people are JUST noticing actions that were taking place about 2 months ago and reporting on it. *shrugs* |
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ZODDGUTS
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Went to the mall today with my friends for the heck of it I went to check out Suncoast and see if they had Berserk manga and guess what they did so I assume not all suncoast stores has taken out mature manga out of their stores.
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Mohawk52
 Posts: 8202 Location: England, UK |
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If my memory serves me well, wasn't there a comic book store owner in Texas that was prosecuted for selling hentai manga to an adult undercover agent not long ago? I remember that his defence was that it was on a shelf in the back and clearly labelled as Adult Only but he still got done for it. I understand that it was going to be appealed, but I haven’t seen any outcome. This could be a fall out from that precedent.
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Taro_M
 Posts: 1 Location: North-Central Indiana |
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I was just at Suncoast yesterday, and as usual, perused the anime wall, which I must say has grown considerably over the years.....heck, I remember when all they had was a few Pokemon episodes and DBZ stuff that was like 4 months old (since being aired)....now you can get just about everything that has been dubbed and aired, and some that hasn't aired yet....I'm kinda impressed....
Anyway, my point is they had a little sign that said they sold "mature" anime, "over 100 titles", but you would have to ask a sales associate for assistance, and then a ID would be required to verify you being 18 or over. I'm not sure why the other stores are just pulling them.....manga I can understand....but anime.... Is that what the other stores are doing, or do they not carry the stuff at all, even in "the back room"...... |
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Swordfish_II
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Also the store was near a school. A school for deaf children. On the other side of an extremely busy highway. A busy highway the deaf children are not allowed to cross without an adult. |
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Iron Chef
 Posts: 487 Location: Seattle, WA |
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I'm pretty sure that both anime and manga have ratings. My Kare Kano manga says something like 13+, and the Action channel always posts a rating before showing anime.
So my question is, are folks just not looking at the package before they buy stuff? If it says R or TV-MA or whatever, why the hell would you think that it's suitable for kids? I guess some more info from Suncoast as to why they pulled the titles would help to answer this one. Until then, we're all just speculating. |
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Luff-Chan
 Posts: 79 Location: Scottsdale, AZ |
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I think it is funny because I used to work at a movie theatre, and with the MSRP Rating, or whatever it is called, people REALLY focus on the rating, I have parents freak out when it is PG-13 and they have a 12 year old child with them...yet with anime and manga, since it is cartoons and comics, they think it is kiddie stuff. Although, a lot of companies have different rating systems. I mean, ADV gave Sailor Moon Season 1 a 15+ rating O_o I hope I don't have to show my ID when I go -___- I'm almost 17, and yet I won't be able to buy my favourite manga and anime? What has this country come to? |
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