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[Split] Adult Swim Success

To tempest: what make you say Adult Swim is a success? Last time I check Cartoon Network is not even in the top 10 in cable. Get real!Next time you throw out something you better have the numbers to back it up, isn't your co-worker Zac just bash someone for their spectculation? and now you just did the exact thing that your comrade thrash others for doing the same thing?. There are other incidents like this that I noticed about you guys. Stop being hyproctites already damn it!. Maybe people should refer to you as client 10, if you know what I mean. As for the Cartoon Network, it's can be said with absolute certainty that one of the main reason for its Adult Swim program block success has alot to do with anime, especially blockbusters like Eva-Bebop and FMA, to say without exarggeration: anime contributes greatly to Adult Swim's success and notoriety. Unlike you guys which is part of the media, I'm just a regular fan of anime, so I don't know what the numbers (rating) are, but what I did is using common sense and instinct, and I'm very confident that I'm right, because what my instinct tells me is usually 90% right. Why don't you guys get the numbers from Nielsen and prove me wrong, looking forward it. Tell me, just since a show that is not anime run on Cartoon Network got any buzz from anywhere? I didn't think so. Nowaday, anime epitomizes cool and creating buzz not any others American producing shows, remember that.

To tempest: what make you say Adult Swim is a success? Last time I check Cartoon Network is not even in the top 10 in cable.

As for the Cartoon Network, it's can be said with absolute certainty that one of the main reason for its Adult Swim program block success has alot to do with anime, especially blockbusters like Eva-Bebop and FMA, to say without exarggeration: anime contributes greatly to Adult Swim's success and notoriety.

Tell me, just since a show that is not anime run on Cartoon Network got any buzz from anywhere?

I didn't think so. Nowaday, anime epitomizes cool and creating buzz not any others American producing shows, remember that.

To Celes: When was the last time anything that wasn't anime that shown on Adult Swim get you excited? name one.

enurtsol wrote:

Don't forget about the anime soundtrack CDs too. Used to even have their own category rack in Sam Goody. Now ya can't find 'em anywhere.

The vast majority of anime CDs in the US were published by Geneon, unfortunately.

To Shadwhawk: just one question before I reply to your post: Are you on crack when you wrote your post?. If not, then you must be very stupid or a person with very little knowledge. I just read the numbers (rating) on USA Today last week and Cartoon Network did not make the top 10 in cable and this is just last week the year is 2008, I repeat, 2008. You said where I live, it must be 2002, it's ironic that you use the rating of 2005, which is 3 years ago to prove that CN was #1, I'm going to be brutally honest here: who give a sheet about what show it's #1 in 2005, what matters most is who's #1 right now, in 2008 not 2005. When both, viewers and advertisers want to look at the numbers for their own reason, they look at the current numbers not the numbers from few years ago. In term of rating right now, the Cartoon Network got slaughter by both of its main competitors the Disney Channel and Nickolodeon, just like Fox News crushes two of it main rivals, CNN and MSNBC.

Now, let lighten up a bit and talk about buzz shall we?. If you visit this website, then surely must know about a little show call Neon Genesis Evangelion ( Eva) don't you?. As told by New Type USA be for the magazine's demise, when it air on America's airwave via the Cartoon Network, anime fans in the U.S felt as though they were hit by a tsunami, and after the last episode ended, viewers storm internet forums and others venues with an unprecedented opinions and discussions about the show. Simply put, the level of buzz created by the show at the time measure by animation show standard before and up to now is unequalled and without a doubt, not only Eva had people talk about it but it also had people's tongues waging about the Cartoon Network as well. No show bring attention and fame to the Cartoon Network as Eva did, and that a fact! and fame and noriety bring in more viewers, it help the network grap young audience that for sure. As you can see, in term of creating buzz all of the american shows you mention doens't hold a candle to anime since Eva to the present day,

and you say about the anime bubble has bursted, what bubble? and what burst? have you check the stastistics lately? the mayority of anime come from manga, and according to icv2.com, the general entertainment news source, manga dominates the top ten graphic novels list every month this year and if the "bubble" has "bursted" why is manga continues to reigns sumpreme heh?

and if the "bubble" has "bursted" why is the Sci-Fi channel and the Cartoon Network continue to air anime? not only that, Sci-fi take a bold step to air the much anticipated anime Guggen Laggan in July, and this anime just aired on Japan last year, so it's relatively new. Let's be fair to anime here, certain anime's rating is low is becauce some of them are not great, so few people watch them not because people are losing interest in anime. Combining the fact that manga continues to blossoms on the chart and american networks such as Cartoon Network and Sci-Fi continue to air anime and add on new show it's clear that people interest in anime and manga still remain high.

You and few others seem to view anime and manga as a fad and thought it will dies yet the numbers suggest otherwise, you guys don't have concrete evidence to back it up beside your dumb opinion and loud mouth. Anime is a phenomenom not a fad. You can quote me on that. See yah sucker!

I just read the numbers (rating) on USA Today last week and Cartoon Network did not make the top 10 in cable and this is just last week the year is 2008, I repeat, 2008.

Now, let lighten up a bit and talk about buzz shall we?. If you visit this website, then surely must know about a little show call Neon Genesis Evangelion ( Eva) don't you?. As told by New Type USA be for the magazine's demise, when it air on America's airwave via the Cartoon Network, anime fans in the U.S felt as though they were hit by a tsunami, and after the last episode ended, viewers storm internet forums and others venues with an unprecedented opinions and discussions about the show. Simply put, the level of buzz created by the show at the time measure by animation show standard before and up to now is unequalled and without a doubt, not only Eva had people talk about it but it also had people's tongues waging about the Cartoon Network as well. No show bring attention and fame to the Cartoon Network as Eva did, and that a fact!

and fame and noriety bring in more viewers, it help the network grap young audience that for sure. As you can see, in term of creating buzz all of the american shows you mention doens't hold a candle to anime since Eva to the present day,

First of all, you are setting manga equal with anime, which is just wrong. Stick to your point, it was about airing on TV, after all, and it's really hard to air manga on TV. Still, I believe Graphic Novels are a niche market even in the USA, so just compare the numbers of the newest Naruto, to the "Twilight" series.
While the newest Naruto, 29, I guess, is around 3000 in best-selling books on amazon, the newest book from the Twilight series, Breaking Dawn, is #5. But the first volume is even more interesting, since Naruto 1 is around 24000 while Twilight is #13.
As you can see, graphic novels are definitely a niche market and so saying it "reigns supreme" is simply a ridiciolous statement, even worse because he was saying the "anime bubble burst".

Now, let lighten up a bit and talk about buzz shall we?. If you visit this website, then surely must know about a little show call Neon Genesis Evangelion ( Eva) don't you?. As told by New Type USA be for the magazine's demise, when it air on America's airwave via the Cartoon Network, anime fans in the U.S felt as though they were hit by a tsunami, and after the last episode ended, viewers storm internet forums and others venues with an unprecedented opinions and discussions about the show. Simply put, the level of buzz created by the show at the time measure by animation show standard before and up to now is unequalled and without a doubt, not only Eva had people talk about it but it also had people's tongues waging about the Cartoon Network as well. No show bring attention and fame to the Cartoon Network as Eva did, and that a fact! and fame and noriety bring in more viewers, it help the network grap young audience that for sure. As you can see, in term of creating buzz all of the american shows you mention doens't hold a candle to anime since Eva to the present day, and you say about the anime bubble has bursted, what bubble? and what burst? have you check the stastistics lately? the mayority of anime come from manga, and according to icv2.com, the general entertainment news source, manga dominates the top ten graphic novels list every month this year and if the "bubble" has "bursted" why is manga continues to reigns sumpreme heh? and if the "bubble" has "bursted" why is the Sci-Fi channel and the Cartoon Network continue to air anime? not only that, Sci-fi take a bold step to air the much anticipated anime Guggen Laggan in July, and this anime just aired on Japan last year, so it's relatively new. Let's be fair to anime here, certain anime's rating is low is becauce some of them are not great, so few people watch them not because people are losing interest in anime. Combining the fact that manga continues to blossoms on the chart and american networks such as Cartoon Network and Sci-Fi continue to air anime and add on new show it's clear that people interest in anime and manga still remain high. You and few others seem to view anime and manga as a fad and thought it will dies yet the numbers suggest otherwise, you guys don't have concrete evidence to back it up beside your dumb opinion and loud mouth. Anime is a phenomenom not a fad. You can quote me on that. See yah sucker!

Labbes wrote:

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Naruto and Fruits Basket (and to the lesser extent, Bleach) usually hit up on the USA Today's 150 Top Bestsellers quite often and they're much more dependable than Amazon's Top Selling List because most people who buy manga usually buy from Borders or other big bookstore chain or something of the like than online. Fruits Baskets and Naruto had made it as far as within the top 20 once and manga usually outsells American graphic novels as well. While manga is still a niche, but it's a very booming one DESPITE the issue with Tokyopop (which I think it's over-saturation of titles finally caught up with them). Plus the fact that that Naruto, Furuba and Bleach hit the Top 150 multiple times despite long running series is astouding as well.

Remember, the US manga industry is in a lot healthier state than the US anime one, granted that the US manga industry had a small decrease of profits last time I heard.

However, it's sadly true that the new episode of an anime who put the best numbers that Saturday is half of what a 855028th rerun of Family Guy usually rakes in..


As my thoughts on PiQ, I pretty much saw it coming too because people hoped that despite the focus of interest in the magazine will more than anime/manga, it still be the focal point.

To tempest: what make you say Adult Swim is a success?