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Nomura: Final Fantasy VII Game Remake Will Be 'Next PR Priority' After Kingdom Hearts III


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AiddonValentine



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:27 am Reply with quote
I would hope it would be next on the priorities, it swiftly turning into FFXV all over again. They better hope the game's next reveal knocks everyone's socks off
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TyrantValvatorez





PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:29 am Reply with quote
Square seems to be getting worse at making AAA single player games. FFXV was released incomplete and the story is a mess that got worse with each Retcon. Everything except Dragon Quest XI seems to hit with a thud instead of a bang. While single player games made by their studios in the Western Hemisphere seem be worth playing and doing well at all.

At the rate their going the FFVII remake is going to be pushed back to the PS5. If Left Alive and KHIII fail to make enough bank. They may have to scale back and focus on solely being a Video Game publisher to stay afloat.
Maybe they should let the team behind FFXIV create the next mainline single player Final Fantasy game. Even without the nostalgia trip content it lives up to the franchise hype compared to the Lightning trilogy and XV.
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Twilightmaster



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:14 am Reply with quote
TyrantValvatorez wrote:
If Left Alive and KHIII fail to make enough bank. They may have to scale back and focus on solely being a Video Game publisher to stay afloat.


I think you're being a bit dramatic with that statement. Granted they had a large loss from the Luminous Productions shut down, but they've had a lot of surprise successes over the last few years and FF XIV still does pretty well last I heard. FF XV, despite not being a great entry in the series, still sold over 8 million copies too. On top of the multitude of mobile games they have that make a ton of money with very little manpower to keep it running.
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Morry



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:34 am Reply with quote
You can blame Nomura. His project's are always the one that take an eternity to make despite other game directors getting more done in far less time. I'd hate to hear the inside story of what working under him is like.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 10:41 am Reply with quote
So is safe to assume that this is a PS5 game, because is not coming out next year and by 2020 we'll have the next gen around, also, this is an episodic game, meaning that we'll finish the whole thing by 2022 or something.
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Twilightmaster



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:24 am Reply with quote
LvlfiveShipper wrote:
So is safe to assume that this is a PS5 game, because is not coming out next year and by 2020 we'll have the next gen around, also, this is an episodic game, meaning that we'll finish the whole thing by 2022 or something.


It's possible it'll be a PS5 game, but the episodic part was a misquote from an old interview. Nomura later clarified that he meant episodic similar to FF XIII in that there would be multiple, full length games telling a bigger story.
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Mistaken



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:04 pm Reply with quote
Morry wrote:
You can blame Nomura. His project's are always the one that take an eternity to make despite other game directors getting more done in far less time. I'd hate to hear the inside story of what working under him is like.

so you completely ignore that he was pulled off of 7 to work on KH3, by S/E theirselves? you ignore that the remake wasn't even supposed to be announced in '15, but it had to be because of the leakers?

yeah. it's all nomura's fault.
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Firefly251



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:10 pm Reply with quote
gotta say if it isnt near done or beign worked on much...it might as well be the nex gen console game.

Releasing a largely anticipated game for years at or after the PS4's life is practically over would be a bad choice... (maybe if its a ps4 and ps5 dual release but not an old gen release)
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AiddonValentine



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:31 pm Reply with quote
LvlfiveShipper wrote:
So is safe to assume that this is a PS5 game, because is not coming out next year and by 2020 we'll have the next gen around, also, this is an episodic game, meaning that we'll finish the whole thing by 2022 or something.


I have no idea; the episodic game idea was also done back when Cyberconnect was the developer. They were then dropped and Square scrapped two whole years of work. Nomura has serious issues as a director and it really seems Square should stop putting him on projects like this. Just let him make Kingdom Hearts, it's what he actually cares about
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BadNewsBlues



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:50 pm Reply with quote
TyrantValvatorez wrote:

Maybe they should let the team behind FFXIV create the next mainline single player Final Fantasy game.


A Final Fantasy fame that looks and plays like an MMO? Why not worked well for XII.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 5:14 pm Reply with quote
Good, hopefully that's really the case and S-E will actually do it since we did start getting more KH3 updates after FF15 came out. Since KH3 currently has the spotlight being only a few months away.
I do kind of agree though that this late in the gen it kind of makes sense for the first installment to be an early PS5 title though, rather than a super late PS4 one, if it's not coming until 2020.

Twilightmaster wrote:
I think you're being a bit dramatic with that statement. Granted they had a large loss from the Luminous Productions shut down, but they've had a lot of surprise successes over the last few years and FF XIV still does pretty well last I heard. FF XV, despite not being a great entry in the series, still sold over 8 million copies too. On top of the multitude of mobile games they have that make a ton of money with very little manpower to keep it running.

Yeah, also I can't imagine KH3 doing badly. KH does very well and I feel like this one is going to sell really well too, especially with some of the huge new Disney movies in there that people were hoping would be.

Mistaken wrote:
Morry wrote:
You can blame Nomura. His project's are always the one that take an eternity to make despite other game directors getting more done in far less time. I'd hate to hear the inside story of what working under him is like.

so you completely ignore that he was pulled off of 7 to work on KH3, by S/E theirselves? you ignore that the remake wasn't even supposed to be announced in '15, but it had to be because of the leakers?

yeah. it's all nomura's fault.

This.
Also, it seems like so many also forget that while S-E was busy totally shitting the bed on HD development for most of last gen, and as such was repeatedly taking his Versus team to help both the FF13 and FF14 teams, along with them going overly "mobile happy", that despite all of that Nomura still released a bunch of other games during that time on PSP and 3DS.


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jdnation



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:57 pm Reply with quote
Can't fault Nomura for this. In the interim the man put out several games on handheld.

Square seems to have a confusing management that continuously shifts people around.

The biggest hit to FF Versus XIII was Square pulling all hands on deck to fix FFXIV.

Then Tabita had the hard task of having to salvage FF Versus XIII into FFXV. And it shows in the game's unfinished quality form features to story.

And even now, Tabata wasn't allowed to finish the DLC for FFXV, and Square most likely cancelled his new IP ambitions which must've led to his departure.

All that said, I think the new way of doing things is better. Put the amrketing focus behind one big IP at one time.

In this case Kingdom Hearts.

Then once that's out, move on to only focusing on FFVII, and don't show anything at all about any FFXVI until the FFVII anthology or whatever is completed.

Naturally continuing to promote other mid tier projects on handheld or small rpg or the next Nier or DQ of XIV update on the side is fine.
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Silver Kirin



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 7:45 pm Reply with quote
I can´t not believe how long this project has been in development. I remember reading some comments after they revealed Cloud as a playable character for Smash Bros for Wii U and everyone was criticising Nintendo for choosing a character that never appeared in main game for their consoles and that Cloud's appearance was free publicity for Square, Sony and the FFVII remake. Flashforward just 3 years and now FFVII will be avaiable for the Switch and the remake doesn't have a realese date yet.
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professorwho



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:29 pm Reply with quote
Bottom line: Never let Nomura direct another game again. He's a good artist, but a hack director who just screws around for years at his own pace (FF VS XIII/FFXV), or he gets so caught up in his fantasy world of nonsensical storytelling that's ruined the series (Kingdom Hearts), or remake a game he had little involvement in with questionable changes that'll annoy more than please (FFVII Remake).
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AiddonValentine



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:03 am Reply with quote
professorwho wrote:
Bottom line: Never let Nomura direct another game again. He's a good artist, but a hack director who just screws around for years at his own pace (FF VS XIII/FFXV), or he gets so caught up in his fantasy world of nonsensical storytelling that's ruined the series (Kingdom Hearts), or remake a game he had little involvement in with questionable changes that'll annoy more than please (FFVII Remake).


It's more complicated than that. As much as I feel Nomura is a one trick pony, it seems like a lot of this has to do more with SE (specifically stuff around Final Fantasy) being incompetently run. This isn't new either, FFXII and XIII also having borked dev cycles.
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