Forum - View topicINTEREST: This Summer's New Swimming Anime Will Get Female Fans Thirsty
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Chiibi
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Damn!! These guys just aren't attractive to me. Whatta waste....
Gilgamesh lounging around naked or in low-cut shirts during F/Z, now that was hot. Can't they make these boys look more like him? |
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CatSword
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Thirsty? Well, I hope they're not drinking the pool water.
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Ashen Phoenix
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Fingers crossed this turns out to have a solid story and the characters' personalities are a center piece and not an afterthought or confined to tired tropes. Right now their designs alone aren't doing it for me,
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Lord Oink
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Been a pretty popular article style for the last couple of years on various sites. Kotaku thought it was newsworthy to say a male character in Pokemon getting like 6 pieces of fanart was newsworthy, but the thousands of pieces and doujins of a female character wasn't worth making an article about or mentionable. Maybe female writers on news sites are just more open about what they get off too.. while male writers have to pretend they don't sexualize females at the risk of getting backlash. Besides, its not like people dont try to say a anime only did well because of male oriented fanservice despite plenty of fanservice shows like Keijo bombing |
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SilverTalon01
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Just because the series is well done like Free or Yuri doesn't mean it doesn't come down to titillation. It totally does. It is the same as with T&A series though in that some of them are good and some of them aren't. Some of them have gorgeous animation, and some of them are visual trash. You may not be able to guarantee a series with super hot characters of either gender will be a hit just because the character designs look good, but you can almost guarantee one of those types of series is going to bomb if they don't. I'd also like to see a source for that last claim. |
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ANN_Lynzee
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I don't know about you, but from a woman's perspective being told that something is going to get me "wet" isn't tongue-in-cheek funny the way "thirsty" is, it's just porno-gross sounding. While it might be a more perfect euphemism, it'd probably squick most of our female readers out. (I put a lot of thought into my stupid puns).
I wrote that up too (about the Pokemon character) but I'll add that I've also wrote about guys getting horny about a female teacher character from kids' English guidebook (use the ANN search for "Ellen"). I probably do have more freedom to write about either topic for the reasons you mentioned, although staff writer Eric Stimson has gotten stuck with writing up some weird sexual-related articles (see our latest about the man transformed into a woman to breastfeed an alien baby, for instance). I hope no one is judging Eric, since his writing assignments are 100% my fault. |
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zztop
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The more important part is whether the source tells a compelling enough story that can coexist with the anime fanservice, much like Free! and its coming of age themes, ans whether the anime staff can properly adapt the story for the screen.
The source novels only span 4 volumes, so this series could be easily adapted in 1 cour. There was a manga version lasting 5 volumes back in 2007-2008, and a live action movie in 2008. Here's the trailer for those interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvWeKIGlIMA I'd always equated Suzuhito Yasuda's art more with sexy/cute girls like Danmachi's Hestia, but I'm all for him expanding his repertoire to cover characters outside his comfort zone. |
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manapear
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Agreed. I like attractive muscles. This. . . is not that. For me, anyway. (Yes on guys in those tight pilot suits though! ♥) (Also making a note to check out Tsukiuta.)
I understand why someone made the point about YOI and Free! selling a lot on titillation, but I agree with you. For a lot of fandom, I think it is the balance of the titillation and emotional aspect. Especially since they try and sell merch that plays on the attachment grown to the characters as much as they do the sexualized merch. |
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zztop
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Do you mean by how their faces are drawn? |
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Vent
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Those are some intensely off-putting faces, especially the short one.
I mean, if you want to make Free comparisons, Free's characters were actually attractive. I'm not sure how well this is going to do when your dudes are actually not great to look at but, hey, fumbling the ball is basically the Noitamina way! |
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Lemonchest
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I see they're going for the hench children look, which given the olympics connection is probably the right way to go, even if it ain't so much my thing aesthetically. More concerning is the director being involved with Battery, which took the simplist setup possible for a bromance anime & turned it into a repetative, angsty bore. Makes me wonder if there's going to be a lot of manpurses at dawn & relatively little diving.
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CCTakato
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I was a big fan of Free and I loved that series a lot but this feels like a deliberate cash in to me. Maybe it would be better in a PV but the art design looks like it's lesser quality to me than what we had with Free. I also appreciated Free dealt with older characters. These guys are too shota for me. This just feels uninspired and it's not offering anything new.
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Zin5ki
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You know how jerseys, balls and other such paraphernalia are sold to sports fans to commemorate past glories? I may have just had an idea: commemorative diving pool water samples! Use decorative urns to apportion the residual fluids following a major event, and provide each one with a certificate of authenticity. The chlorine, I estimate, would ensure a reasonable degree of longevity. Last edited by Zin5ki on Thu Apr 27, 2017 4:05 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Cam0
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Same as Free, these dudes don't have nipples. What's up with that?
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SHD
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Nope. Go back and read what I actually wrote. Yes, there were "series for females" (women - they're called women) and some of them are good, a few actually great. But they were specific kinds of stories designed specifically for young girls/younger teenagers, with the occasional exception proving the rule. Most of the stories I found actually interesting, the ones I wanted to watch - the action shows, sci-fi shows, etc? Boys club, shows made with the assumption that they will be watched by a male audience. You clearly don't know what it is like to watch Cowboy Bebop (to use an example most everyone is familiar with) and be all "yes, I understand what you're doing with Faye but how about you tone it down a little bit? and does Julia have to wear a sexy catsuit?" Or even shows like GITS:SAC, one of my favorite anime ever - and yet I spent a considerable amount of the first season thinking "the Major is awesome but how about you give her some pants for chrissakes, it's difficult to take her seriously like this." And so on and so forth. All women must be beautiful/sexy, but the male characters? let them be vaguely decent looking (so it doesn't intimidate viewers), but otherwise meh, who cares. Today's shows (at least the ones not squarely targeting specific otaku demographics) make sure to think of the potential female audience, including service targeted at them as well as male viewers. Now you have hot guys in the cast, not just hot chicks, care is taken to get popular male seiyuu for the important roles to croon into viewers' ears, to add Passionate Male Friendships(TM) for the segment that appreciates this, etc. It's a far cry from sweating blood to draw prettier versions of the characters from Captain Tsubasa, and digging deep to find subtext for your BL doujinshi. On the other hand...
Riiiight. It wouldn't have had the female viewership it did if all it had was gorgeous animation. Had it featured gorgeously animated female main characters it still might have gotten very popular, but with a different crowd. Let's not pretend that Free, and YoI too for that matter, were not trying really hard to sell the hot guys and the subtext. YoI made the subtext text (although notably they still chickened out in key moments) but again if it was a show about all female characters it wouldn't have gotten the female following it had. Titillation is very much part of the package - I mean seriously, what do you even make of scenes with Viktor running around naked and glomping Yuuri and whatnot? Actual BL series don't get the type of fannish following of non-BL but heavily subtexty shows because being actual BL there's just less of a room to play, less opportunities for exploring and interpreting. That's all. Last edited by SHD on Thu Apr 27, 2017 4:41 am; edited 2 times in total |
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