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Cecilthedarkknight_234
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Dammit Sony of America what is your problem as of late? Do you want Play-Asia or another company to sell imports of senran kagura "translated only" to get by this policy?
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Taiyz
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I guess censorship is the cost of cross-play, Sony giveth and Sony taketh away.
Not particularly happy that I have to double-dip and get a Steam copy on top of the PS4 CE, but Senran Kagura's my favourite franchise and this isn't XSEED's fault after all. It's a damn shame, since it kinda felt to me that Senran Kagura's finally made it to the big leagues with a second anime series and potentially appearing as a guest franchise in BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle (if the data mining is to be believed.) It really sucks that Sony's starting to interfere. |
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Shinuki
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Another one in the series: why i never want the western to have any "say" in the manga/anime industry"
The hypocrisy in America is just frustrating, you can have the most brutal and gore games ever in the "friendly family" console, but a game with some ecchi/fanservice? hell no, now you crossing the line! |
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Chester McCool
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As far as the Switch is concerned, there hasn't been any games edited for sexual content in the American release. Senran Kagura Reflexions still has the pervy HD rumble features, Bayonetta 1 and 2 are still the same, and Xenoblade 2 recently gave us skimpy swimsuits for everyone. Hell, last week the eShop put out an American version of Hot Gimmick Cosplay-jong, where you play mahjong against various anime girls and if you win, you can punish them in a varity of ways like stripping their clothes off, whipping them, oiling up their breasts and rubbing stuff between them, etc. Now, I'm not foolish enough to think no game is never going to be censored on it, but so far it seems the Switch is a lot more lenient than the Wii U and 3DS were. I suppose we'll just have to wait to see what the systems Fire Emblem Fates or Tokyo Mirage Sessions will be. |
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lumclaw
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Although formed under pressure, the ESRB is officially voluntary at the American national level. No video game is required to be rated, no organization to issue ratings is required to exist, and any rating a game receives is unenforceable. |
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CurseTheSky
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The very same Nintendo that no longer forces censorship. Have you seen some of the games on the Switch eShop? |
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CrimsonDX
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Guess I will be getting the PC version. First Omega Labyrinth and now this? Seriously screw Sony.
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chrisc1978
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Not sure if I want the NA version, I was going to buy the “at The Seams Edition” don’t really care to spend the extra money now
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chrisc1978
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I was just thinking if censoring is a new policy for Sony, I am going to start planning on buying a new PC that supports VR and say screw it to Sonys next Playstation model.
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BadNewsBlues
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Yeah Nintendo especially their American Branch is really shaky on when they decide to lean on developers to edit something out of a game and just adhering simply to live and let live.
Yes most of what's on there being meh and not really disproving the above statement.
Fair point I guess. |
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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Removed some posts. Some of you need to agree to disagree and stop poking at each other with bait comments.
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Mad_Scientist
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It's true the ESRB rating enforcement is voluntary, but so is the MPAA rating enforcement. And the post by GNPixie is in fact quite inaccurate. The ESRB ratings have always been the best enforced of any age rating in the US, sometimes by a massive degree. FTC secret shopper surveys have tested this many times, and frankly it was embarrassing how for the MPAA ratings how badly they were enforced by comparison some years. The reason why platform holders like Nintendo and Sony wouldn't allow the AO ratings isn't out of fear that they wouldn't be enforced, but because most AO games are porn games, and outright porn has a pretty heavy level of stigma to it in the US and a lot of other places. They simply didn't want to be associated with it, regardless of whether they could show that the ratings would be enforced well. However, the days of the video game panic and Jack Thompson are behind us. I do still think that there would be some controversy if Sony were to release an AO rated game on the Playstation(because again there's that porn association), though not nearly as much as if say Nintendo allowed one to be released on the Switch. It doesn't sound to me like this intimacy mode would even result in an AO rating though. I guess we'll know for sure when we see what the Steam version get's rated. So this isn't about the ESRB ratings, but something that predates them: that platform holders like Sony/Nintendo/etc can decide what they want to allow to be released on their systems, and can do so arbitrarily. And sometimes it can seem a little weird (my favorite lol what moment that happened relatively recently was probably the censoring of Tharja's butt in the Fire Emblem Awakening DLC that actually made it look lewder in a way) but that's life. Hey at least in this case you potentially have an alternative with the Steam version. |
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BadNewsBlues
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The mode was in two previous games both of which were on the PS4 and neither got the AO rating with it in it. So we know that didn't guide this decision. |
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GNPixie
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I'm not American. We don't have our own rating system sadly so Canada tends to mooch off of the ESRB with the only additive being manuals/cases needing to have French. That's not necessary if it's a generic NA-general release rather than having a specific Canada release, which can sometimes backfire if they don't have a French speaker on hand to do proper translations. Ys 8's Vita release was really bad in this regard. "I have to buy a hat" and all. With "No video game is required to be rated," that's actually wrong. Some stores actually require ESRB ratings to be sold on store shelves. Heck, that's even stated on the ESRB page itself. I don't believe its necessary for Steam though..
I'm not American so it could actually be enforced down in the States pretty hard and I wasn't aware of it. But it's pretty much a non-thing in Canada when it comes to enforcing it. I've worked box retail for about a decade give-or-take a couple years of post secondary (so around more like 6-7 years more accurately) so I've seen it first hand. You can have kids who look 17 or such come a buy the newest GTA, CoD or even Mortal Kombat without asking for ID and people wouldn't bat an eye (happened to me with Persona 3's original release) It's the same issue that the tobacco industry ran into for a while, with the lackluster ID-ing and such.
That's kind of interesting thing there. The only AO games I know of that've gotten explicitly AOs were one of the Postal games (which also had an M-rating release on PS2, if I'm not mistaken), the original European release of Indigo Prophecy (which was used as the basis for the remaster which was an M), one of the original versions of the GTA PS2 games and the Ef game releases by MangaGamer (which was just done as a request from both the original dev and because they wanted a hardcopy release iirc.) There might be a ton more that I'm not luckily not familiar with but it's kind of weird that we've got a couple ratings that they just don't like to be used anymore, for one reason or another.
Nintendo already has some gravure stuff on the (English) Eshop that might as well be porn. It's an interesting shift between Sony, a company that used to thrive on eccentric Japanese stuff, and Nintendo, a company who just a couple years ago was choppy with stuff. I do wonder if it might Sony trying to distance themselves from stuff like the end years of the Vita as a whole.
The handling of FE in general has been interesting to see, yeah, especially as someone who got their FE history started with Holy War. That game had some stuff that never would've made it over originally but now you've got things like Camilla in general (and the acknowledgement of that absurd character design in general in Warriors) and not shying away from embracing the modern FE quirks with stuff like Heroes. |
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Lord Oink
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Sony of America is completely westernized. The way they marketed the PSP/Vita here and it's ultimate lack of support made this clear where they valued pushing a handful of western indie games rather than the hundreds of Japanese stuff it was made for. I just see this as the next step in their American branch deviating from the Japanese branch.
The US version of Heroes is actually censored and has some of the skimpier outfits digitally changed, although I suppose it's possible that has to do with Apple/Google |
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