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Again, we don't know how many people watching adult animation may crossover to anime. I mean it's possible for someone who could watch Legend of Vox Machina could end up watching Record of Lodoss War OVA. How are you so sure there are 2 different audiences when it comes to adult animation and mature/adult Japanese animation? How are you so sure that one audience demographic will not crossover to anime assuming that person never watch anime or not aware of violent/gory anime OVAs from the 80's/90's? Maybe it doesn't sound crazy for someone who watch adult animation on Netflix or Prime Video could end up watching M.D Geist, Genocyber, & Violence Jack because somebody on a Reddit recommended more adult animation and let say 5-15 anime fans on that reddit topic recommended anime OVAs like the one I just mentioned to those fans that are hungry for more adult animation. That's how you have people that watch adult animation on Netflix & Prime Video could end up crossing over to anime (& probably older anime including the OVAs from the 80's/90's).

I actually had no idea you had sent me a message, I forget that Pm is even a thing on this site so i never chek and I had no notification sent to me.

Just to be clear, this is not something that I saying as an undisputed fact that I could prove without a shadow of a doubt, in the same way there is no guarantee you are correct neither am I.

Getting to the root of question, I feel that you asking me a question that I have already answered "How are you so sure there are 2 different audiences when it comes to adult animation and mature/adult Japanese animation?" Because they are completely different sorts of adult animation. Those Anime titles(there some exceptions that you have mentioned, ie Gall Force) as I said fall under the category of Grindhouse style exploitation, they are more similar to low budget exploration Films of the 70s, only updated for the 80s and more violent, than to the current crop of what is being called adult animation. I mean one of them has the word Violence in the title while another is a portmanteau containing the word Genocide, sounds right at home next to I spite on Your Grave.

As for modern adult animation, I certainly can not see how any of it is in any way in the same wheelhouse or even remotely similar. The show you mentioned, Legend of Vox Machina, going by the action it would have more crossover appeal with a Anime based on a Weekly Shonen Jump title and the style of comedy is not even like Anime of today, never mind from when you are talking of. As for Love, Death & Robots and Gall Force, well I have seen the first Gall Force, and unless the series take a dramatic turn with the second, i have no idea why some who is a fan of the former would be interested in Gall Force.

Just so we are on the same page here, your belief that there is a crossover audience between the two, is not just because they are both classed as adult animation? Because I can't shake this feeling that that is the case. Take inside Job for example, why would that shows audience, a work place comedy along the veins of BoJack Horseman, be interested in Wicked City, a dark fantasy action horror Film, for a reason outside of both being targeted for adults(adults from different generations and countries)?

My Hero Academia hit during the era of streaming while Tiger & Bunny's 2011 release may have been too early. Additionally, with anime and manga continuing to grow in popularity and even being referenced more prevalently by various musical artists, especially those in the hip-hop community, the right timing could be another contributing factor in success.

Regardless of their differences, both My Hero Academia and Tiger & Bunny have compelling characters and stories that resonate with a lot of fans. With its upcoming season set to release in 2022, Tiger & Bunny could yet hit the mainstream and reach an untapped well of fans who missed out the first time around.

MarshalBanana wrote:

I actually had no idea you had sent me a message, I forget that Pm is even a thing on this site so i never chek and I had no notification sent to me.

Then I recommend you start checking your private message more often, Marshal. Also turn on the PM notification alert, because you may start receiving PMs from me and other people because this moderation process is painful and very slow (hence why I send you a PM to bypass the moderation process) for me. How on earth do you forget that PM is a thing on ANN, Marshal?

MarshalBanana wrote:

Just to be clear, this is not something that I saying as an undisputed fact that I could prove without a shadow of a doubt, in the same way there is no guarantee you are correct neither am I. Getting to the root of question, I feel that you asking me a question that I have already answered "How are you so sure there are 2 different audiences when it comes to adult animation and mature/adult Japanese animation?" Because they are completely different sorts of adult animation. Those Anime titles(there some exceptions that you have mentioned, ie Gall Force) as I said fall under the category of Grindhouse style exploitation, they are more similar to low budget exploration Films of the 70s, only updated for the 80s and more violent, than to the current crop of what is being called adult animation. I mean one of them has the word Violence in the title while another is a portmanteau containing the word Genocide, sounds right at home next to I spite on Your Grave. As for modern adult animation, I certainly can not see how any of it is in any way in the same wheelhouse or even remotely similar. The show you mentioned, Legend of Vox Machina, going by the action it would have more crossover appeal with a Anime based on a Weekly Shonen Jump title and the style of comedy is not even like Anime of today, never mind from when you are talking of. As for Love, Death & Robots and Gall Force, well I have seen the first Gall Force, and unless the series take a dramatic turn with the second, i have no idea why some who is a fan of the former would be interested in Gall Force. Just so we are on the same page here, your belief that there is a crossover audience between the two, is not just because they are both classed as adult animation? Because I can't shake this feeling that that is the case. Take inside Job for example, why would that shows audience, a work place comedy along the veins of BoJack Horseman, be interested in Wicked City, a dark fantasy action horror Film, for a reason outside of both being targeted for adults(adults from different generations and countries)?

But back on topic, it's possible someone who has never watch anime but watch adult animation could crossover to anime if that person is seeking more adult animation and out of nowhere a anime fans recommended anime to that fan of adult animation that never watch anime before.

So it's not crazy for someone who watch Legend of Vox Machina to end up watching Record of Lodoss War OVA, or even Slayers because of the medieval setting, and the animation are both aimed at older viewers. So that's how a crossover could happen.

I could say the same thing for someone who watched Love, Death & Robots could end up watching Gall Force, Bubblegum Crisis, and AD Police. Again, an anime fan (assuming this anime fan watched old school OVAs) can recommend anime (including the old-school/retro OVAs) to someone who watch Love, Death, & Robots who had no previous exposure to anime. So yes, that's possible, and that could lead to the same person watching Cyber City Oedo 808 OVA as a result.

So can this crossover happened even if the animation genre is different? I think it's possible, I mean could someone who watched Inside Job on Netflix ended up watching Project A-Ko, and Cat Girl Nuku Nuku. I've heard of stories of a person who became a anime fans just from watching some adult animation like Family Guy, Futurama (I assume this person may have watch anime on Adult Swim). But now we're living in the era of the internet, Youtube, & social media. So there could be a lot of people that watch adult animation on Netflix, Prime Video, etc.... could crossover to anime. That crossover could include the 80's/90's OVAs because of the hunger for adult animation, those OVAs could fulfilled that hunger for those fans. They won't care how old it is, just as long as it's mature animation to them, they'll watch it. So yes, it wouldn't sound crazy for 5 people who are fans of Love, Death & Robots (& assuming they had no previous exposure to anime) to end up watching Gundam, Bubblegum Crisis, Gall Force, Crusher Joe, Dirty Pair, & Space Adventure Cobra all because they were seeking out more animation that had sci-fi and mature theme.

Marshal, we're living in an era where adult animation in the US is now thriving, the situation is now different compared to the 90's, and early 2000's. So a lot of our 80's/90's OVA including Cyber City Oedo 808 could find new life in the era of adult animation's popularity in the US with the same demographics.

off topic, but tangent (& relevent to this topic): I read an article from CBR about why My Hero Academia was a hit in the US, when Tiger & Bunny didn't back in 2011. And this part got my attention:

CBR wrote:

My Hero Academia hit during the era of streaming while Tiger & Bunny's 2011 release may have been too early. Additionally, with anime and manga continuing to grow in popularity and even being referenced more prevalently by various musical artists, especially those in the hip-hop community, the right timing could be another contributing factor in success. Regardless of their differences, both My Hero Academia and Tiger & Bunny have compelling characters and stories that resonate with a lot of fans. With its upcoming season set to release in 2022, Tiger & Bunny could yet hit the mainstream and reach an untapped well of fans who missed out the first time around.

After reading this, I'm hoping that Tiger & Bunny could find new life today thanks to the mainstream popularity of My Hero Academia, and I assumed the 2nd season ONA that is on Netflix could help achieve that success in the US it deserved.

So my point is that if My Hero Academia can give Tiger & Bunny new life when it comes to superheroes animation. Then maybe and I'm hoping adult animation's rising popularity in the US could lead to 80's/90's anime OVAs including Cyber City Oedo 808 could find new life today. I'm confident there could be a major crossover from audiences that watch adult animation branching out to anime & hopefully 80's/90's anime OVAs.

I'm sorry but what you hope won't happen teens and kids only interested in the latest anime then rate of titles coming out further helps disregard 80s and 90s. The older anime to them only goes further back to 2000s, there's other aspect old school anime fans pretend doesn't exist among a portion of the growing fanbase they don't like cel animation. The only hope if want kids and teens to get into 80s and 90s anime is unfortunately remake them, older fans of anime fans are clamouring for older titles to get rise in popularity it's just the reality.