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EP. REVIEW: NieR:Automata Ver 1.1a

OncelostLu wrote:

meiam wrote: KaidoYuji8Shinji wrote: Never played the game. Is it true that I can watch this and still find it enjoyable? The game part of the game was by far the weakest aspect of the game, so it really just comes down to how good the anime soundtrack will be. While I don't necessarily disagree with this, the wording makes it sound like the gameplay isn't up to snuff. Which, it's actually pretty good. It's just the soundtrack and story are so outstanding, that pretty good gameplay isn't the same as outstanding gameplay.

The gameplay isn't up to snuff. At best it can be called functional, just about any action game blow it out of the water. It's water downed platinum gameplay, so unless you've played every platinum game and DMC (and ninja gaiden and...) there's pretty much no reason to play automata if the anime turns out to be decent.

The gameplay isn't up to snuff. At best it can be called functional, just about any action game blow it out of the water. It's water downed platinum gameplay, so unless you've played every platinum game and DMC (and ninja gaiden and...) there's pretty much no reason to play automata if the anime turns out to be decent.

I swear to God, if Zero and Mikhail from Drakengard 3 somehow show up, I'm throwing a rock straight through my TV.

At least the show managed to integrate Emil's presence into Pascal's backstory; that was a fun little twist.

meiam wrote:

The gameplay isn't up to snuff. At best it can be called functional, just about any action game blow it out of the water. It's water downed platinum gameplay, so unless you've played every platinum game and DMC (and ninja gaiden and...) there's pretty much no reason to play automata if the anime turns out to be decent.

Functional? Yes. In that I feel it lacks the richness of gameplay variety of action games like Metal Gear Solid or The last of us.

But in terms of like to like comparisons to hack'n'slash, I think it's easily accessible to those of us that aren't so hot on the genre. I only like the original God of War games from that genre.

I personally don't like Platinum's games, which just seem to be overly hard and git gud, and mechanically boring with no priority on story, but their cutscene presentations and choreography are top notch, no doubt! Only struggled through Devil May Cry. Gave up halfway through DMC3. Gave up 1 hour into Metal Gear Rising. Never touched their output since. And their logo showing up only suggests to me, " This isn't for you."

The Nier Automata Demo sold me the game because of the option to turn on the Autochips if I got bored or struggled, and i was intrigued by the music and presentation to buy the game and that and the story was so good I didn't mind skipping most of the game when I got bored of combos/button mashing/grinding. I'm glad the Nier Replicant remake did likewise.

If someone isn't hot on the genre, that's all the more reason to skip the game and just watch the anime now that it exist, no?

Bottom line, the reason to play the game are character, story and soundtrack. All of these elements are present in the anime (assuming they do a proper adaptation), with the added bonus that the anime has no gameplay.

The problem with the game gameplay isn't that it's bad, its that its unremarkable. It has no element that makes it even potentially interesting. Even a bad video game can have have entertainment value in its badness, or can be interesting as a way to try and figure out what went wrong or why it doesn't work (see last remnant which is a fascinating game in its badness). But automata was just... bland and tasteless. The inclusion of a "let the game play itself" mode would have been perfect in a game that tried to be ambitious in its gameplay, with the likely outcome that the gameplay doesn't work and end up bad. But having that option is such a lukewarm gameplay is just an admission of defeat, and at that point just remove the gameplay and make a walking simulator.

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Also, that final scene where 9S brutally murders the last surviving Robots that were attending the play feels very much like something the 9S of the game's finale would have pulled; the brazenness of it feels a bit out of character for the guy at such an early stage of the story. It could be a brief lapse in consistency…or maybe it's a bit of foreshadowing for even bigger changes to come?

Yeah, that kinda made me confused too that 9S already going killing spree for machines which clearly shows no aggression that early in the plot... especially when the next episode is supposed to be a meeting with even more peaceful machines. spoiler[Also considering how much presence Jean-Paul had during the Simone fight - now I wonder if anime include him along the way to expand that even further.]

Do we know the artist who did the illustrations at the end of the puppet show in episode 5?

The last few episodes have simply been fascinating. The World building in this show is amazing.
Few questions:
1) any idea when Aniplex with dub this?
2) is the show doing well enough to warrant more episodes? It’s going to be 12?
3) where is the show going?