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teh*darkness
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I'd say two of the most disappointing anime endings for me were Rurouni Kenshin and Yu Yu Hakusho. With Kenshin, as most people know, the anime got cancelled because of horrible ratings during the filler arc the studio created after they finished the Shishio arc. So the entire final arc of the manga never got animated. Very sad.
As for Yu Yu Hakusho, the entire series kept building up, all the way to the 3 Kings arc, with Yusuke fighting for control of the Demon Realm. And what happens? spoiler[He goes out in a double K.O. and wakes up a couple days later to find out someone else won, then the series ends. Just like that.] Talk about abrupt. -_- |
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fighterholic
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Without a doubt in my mind Berserk had one of the most disappointing anime endings I have seen to date. When it kind of left it in the cliffhanger like it did, it wasn't a great cliffhanger to begin with. Other than that, I absolutely did not like the Fruits Basket anime ending, and I have good reasons not to like it. As a big fan of the manga, the anime ended itself without the hopes of really putting the elements that come up later in the manga out for a chance to be animated. A disappointment for myself and several FB fans.
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Paludis
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Why does everyone hate Eva's ending so much? Sure the ending to the TV series by itself sucked badly, but we have EoE, and I think it's a great ending to the series. Maybe it's because I watched EoE before the TV end that I don't have these traumatic memories of the TV end, but now I actually quite enjoy watching both endings, for different perspectives on the show.
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fighterholic
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Your office does seem to be a lot cleaner than I would have expected Zac. Discipline surely makes for a professional right there. I would like to see Miss Bamboo's office though
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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As a fan of Watership Down and the Redwall series I have to agree with this. Maybe they're figuring out a scheme to dfend themselves against pirate sea rats or weasels. Or just talking about how they're going to pwn the neighbors veggie garden. As for Zac's office.....I somehow expected a bigger desk with more drawers. I always kind of thought you'd have this big desk with lots of drawers filled with death threats from flakes, cute animal pictures, and bottles of Scotch for easy access. My dreams are shattered now. Though on a serious note I have those same speakers for my desktop actually. So far I think I like them better then any other set I've ever personally had. |
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nargun
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In most cases, it's because they didn't want their precious mecha genre to be deconstructed. Me, I think that all the Gundam I've seen has rather dubious endings; they spend all this time building up the political aspects to the conflict, that it's deeper than just robots hitting robots 'cause it's cool, and, bang, as soon as the fighting's done they roll credits. Bwuh? For some more obscure ones... Gasaraki's ending had artistic problems, I doubt anyone could disagree; the buildup deserved a better payoff, at least for the mystic side of the plot [the political side resolved fine]. The ending of Betterman stuck in my craw, but not really any more than the rest of the foetid lump they called a plot. So no real loss. Hyper Police's ending always struck me as somewhat misconstructed; an episodic show like that really didn't need, and was probably actively harmed by, a "dramatic conclusion!" like that one. The last few episodes of Vampire Princess Miyu TV seem to contradict earlier episodes wrt the nature of youma-dom; but VPM continuity is whack so I just ignore it. For some good endings, real could-not-be-improved stuff: Gunbuster! Diebuster! Utena! Neia_7 [controversial!] |
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Big Hed
 Posts: 1607 Location: Melbourne, Australia |
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I'm just going to throw a newer title for 'hated endings' into the mix; that being Code Geass. Of course it was a given that there would be a sequel, but in terms of endings that left an impression on me, Code Geass drove me crazy in anticipation.
I also thought the various NGE endings were fine. Messed up introspective shows should have appropriately messed up introspective endings; having said that, I can't wait to see how the new movies turn out portraying the conclusion.
Glad to hear that they both have satisfying endings, as they are coming up quick on my list of DVDs to watch. |
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louieatrest
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You know, Hamlet could have been a really great play if it wasn't for the ending. I mean you spend three hours getting to know the characters and then they all die, just as they were starting to understand each other. The play had some great lines and some good action, but now that the characters are all dead, they will no longer be any more wit coming out of Hamlet's mouth, ever. Also, the heroine turns out to be really dead at the end. What was the point of introducing her at all if not to have her reappear at the end so Hamlet could finally be happy? I do not know what the writers were thinking. Hamlet could have been one of the best plays in the english language, ever, if it was not for that terrible ending.
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zhir
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Or because A: It's largely animated in crayon, B: It ignores all of the characters conflict resolutions besides Shinji's and C: It doesn't do anything to explain what is going on at ALL (don't say it was intentional, Anno ran out of money). Talking about the TV end of course, EoE is a different beast, and probably not what most people refer to when saying the shows' ending sucked. |
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penguintruth
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I laugh at the people who dislike the bittersweet ending of Fullmetal Alchemist for the usual stated reasonss, as if a show with as many tragedies and sacrifices is going to have some sort of storybook happy ending. The show's strong theme of brotherhood and the path taken by the brothers to help each other is done justice in the ending of the television series - spoiler[yes, they aren't reunited yet, but they're both determined to find the way to do it. It's not important to see it actually happen. ]
The movie was entirely unnecessary, but did tie up any of the loose ends left by the television series, and even provided a happier ending, and people still complained. It's as if fans wouldn't be happy unless Edward reunites with Alphonse, stays in the their world, marries and has many children with Winry, and everyone joins hands in joyful song and lives happily ever after forever and ever. I guarantee that when the manga finally ends, it won't have that ending, either. It's like we should all completely ignore the entire flow of the series and its tone so we can have a decisive conclusion. And besides some of the random imagery, End of Evangelion makes perfect sense if you paid attention to the dialogue. The last two episodes, however, I'm still scratching my head over. |
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Key
Moderator
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We could probably sidetrack this thread with the Evangelion series end discussion alone, so I'll just leave it at this: although it took multiple viewings, I eventually grew to understand and appreciate what Anno was trying to do with those last two episodes, and think that it was a remarkable effort that actually fit the series very well.
Others have commented on FMA, so I won't delve into that one here, other than to say that I liked the movie ending. (Yeah, spoiler[Winry gets the shaft, but she and Ed were never that closely emotionally linked anyway].) Mahoromatic is the series whose ending I most often find passionately defending. Matthew does, in fact, actually explain near the end why spoiler[Mahoro comes back at the end (she's the "nostalgia" Matthew refers to as in need of being shed before Saint goes on its journey)]. I didn't find that gimmicky at all; in fact, I thought it resonated deeply and saved the ending from being too dreary. As for anime/manga comparisons with that ending, keep in mind that the anime ended its run more than a year before the chapters that comprised the final volume of the manga were published; in fact, the chapters that comprised volume 6 were being published at the same time Something More Beautiful was airing, so the anime's ending preceded the manga's ending. |
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Dop.L
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Oh, they're definitely up to something...
"They're not as cute like everybody supposes, They got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses, And what's with all the carrots? What do they need such good eyesight for anyway? Bunnies, bunnies It must be bunnies!" But I digress. Community among fans? Fandom in my experience consists of some people who are interesting, intelligent, and good to know, some people who are OK and you might know their name and their face even if you don't socialise with them often, and some people who are just annoying idiots with all the social graces of a rock. |
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Axe-336
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My response to the issue exactly, except I did watch the TV series first. At the time though, I was so new to anime that I was like "I see...." Then I bought the Platinum set when it came out and rewatched it and actually got it after a combination of realizing that everyone had joined into some sort of group conciousness and reading some articles about it (I forget which came first...). Some people might say "You shouldn't have to read articles to understand an ending." and really you don't, its just really unlikely you'll get where Anno is going if you don't. Also I would ask "How much modern and post modern art do you understand without an explaination?" In the retrospect of research I think the ending is rather innovative and creative, and maybe if more people researched it (Especially Superflat which is almost essential to properly understand the series [gee, that doesn't sound like an elitist remark at all....]) they wouldn't bad mouth it so much. Now that I got that out, I wish I had an awesome Iron Man poster like that... Also, Zac stole my epitaph idea, way to go gravestone robber. |
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Steroid
 Posts: 329 Location: At home, where all good hikikomori should be |
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Personally, I'm thinking of going with "THIS GUY WAS A BADASS" on my tombstone.
In any case, I thought the worst anime ending was for Princess Nine. spoiler[While I know sports shows trend toward not having the main characters win, P9 still did it wrong. The show was not a one-person show with Ryo as the main character and the other girls as supporting. It was a team show with Ryo as the nominal leader, just like Sailor Moon or any other mahou shoujo show. And a team leader should never sell out her teammates for personal love, which is what Ryo does at the end. ] Really, if you like this series, you're a stupid, awful person who eats babies.  Actually, I don't mind the last so much.
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marie-antoinette
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I agree that we are a community. I certainly feel like there are some people here I know decently well (or at least I know their online persona). |
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