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mangamuscle
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That is a very native english spèaker thing "Oh, it is anonymous, then I will tell you everything"
I do not think so, even here in the west you will not give the latest DBZ movie as a present to an adult unless you know the recipient is a big fan, unlike say, the latest Avengers movie, which could be a nice present for your average adult. One Piece is in a category by itself, beyond even DB at its prime. |
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Kutsu
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Maybe in Japan but I definitely wouldn't give a manga volume of either DB or One Piece to your average adult in another country. Then again I wouldn't give them the latest Avengers movie either. |
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leafy sea dragon
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The demand for Dragon Ball's still around here. A couple of years ago, I donated volumes 1 to 16 of Dragon Ball (the Viz versions, with 1-8 pre-censored) to a thrift shop. They were priced at $2 each, and the next day, they were all gone.
I'm particuarly concerned that One Piece will fall to the same fate, especially its monstrous length with seemingly no end in sight. At least The Simpsons and Sazae-san are episodic and you can jump in and leave anywhere you want.
It's a woodwind musical instrument. |
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Gasero
Posts: 939 Location: USA |
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I don't know how often Dragon Ball anime airs in Japan, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was an episode of DB in syndication every day. Not much of an incentive to read the manga at that point.
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Primus
Posts: 2774 Location: Toronto |
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Ignoring that Dragon Ball had a fairly faithful and very popular TV adaptation (thus eliminating the necessity to seek out the manga), I don't think that's at all true. If you were originally a child when Dragon Ball was in serialization (1984-1995), you'd be in your mid/late-20s to mid/late-30s now. Today's Japanese college students aren't the children of those kids.
Dragon Ball's manga ended 20 years ago, so it not being as relevant today as it was in 1993 isn't news, but I guarantee you that Dragon Ball is more relevant today than Naruto will be in 20 years. Why? That series has sold worse than Dragon Ball despite running for 30 volumes longer and coming at a time when manga was far more popular in the west. Its TV adaptation universally receives lower viewership in both Japan and North America. Other than a period in the late 00s, its video games sold worse than Dragon Ball ones. Even the theatrical features make less money. |
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AnimeLordLuis
Posts: 1626 Location: The Borderlands of Pandora |
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I'm in college and I've never read the Dragon ball manga but I have watched the entire Anime series including Kai and GT but even I agree 400 students is a low number they should have asked more.
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Jose Cruz
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One Piece I guess they should ask a question of how many read One Piece. |
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Jose Cruz
Posts: 1778 Location: South America |
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The Avengers is not considered to be a good present for a 50 year old in the west. A professor of mine said that these days Hollywood does not make adult movies anymore instead they make that superhero garbage, which are not the kind of movies adults are interested in. My mother who is in her 50's is of the same opinion. I actually agree partially with them, though I wouldn't say that old Hollywood blockbuster movies were adult either (well, the Godfather is more "adult" apparently). While it is very common in Japan for adults to read Shounen Jump. The massive sales of Shounen manga point out for its cross demographic reach.
Not really DB sold more per volume and DB was in Shounen Jump when the magazine was selling 6 million copies per week. Now it sells half of that and declining, hence Dragon Ball was happening at the exact peak of manga popularity (before videogames and internet destroyed the manga market) and also during Japan's peak in relative economic influence, hence explaining its international influence. |
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CrowLia
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Sure a small sample size is "usable" to predict trends, but the bigger the sample the more accurate the statistic. How would you know how many students are enrolled in university in Japan? Easy, Universities do have statistics about that. Just a quick google search told me that there are over 110,000 students enrolled in just three universities in Tokyo (Waseda, Keio, Meiji). And that's just one city, which already has[url="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_in_Tokyo"] a buttload of universities[/url]. How can an extremely negligible sample of 400 people (and we don't even know in which university or region the poll was conducted) which is a lot less than even 1% of the student body of just ONE city, be considered representative of the entire generation. Both the title and the claim that "DB is no longer really relevant among college students" when your sample is so extremely negligible. Consider an election poll in which 400 people were asked who they'll vote for and 330 answer conservative candidate A, while 70 said liberal candidate B. Would you see a newspaper claiming A already has the election in the bag with such an insignificant sample? I'm not saying they need to ask every college student out there, but this poll's sample group is too small for the results to be remotely meaningful or indicative of any trend I'd also say the coin flipping analogy doesn't really make sense for this case because a coin flip is completely random, there is nothing that can determine whether the coin will go one way or the other, while things pertaining human opinion are heavily dependent on a lot of variable. In the election example, you'll likely get radically different results if you ask 400 people in a conservative neighborhood than if you do it in a liberal neighborhood/ a rich neighborhood vs a poor one/ a mono-ethnical neighborhood vs a multiethnical one and so forth. |
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enurtsol
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Have ya been to anonymous J-web boards? (Besides, this is just a simple poll, not everything for anonymous.)
The west doesn't matter in this poll. DB is an icon in Japan; say you love it and don't worry about it.
We don't know how they did this poll, if it's random. The sample size would be covered by the margin of error. |
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Cptn_Taylor
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You should get acquainted with the theory of inferential statistics before spouting nonsense. |
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Mr. Nescio
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If you are not satisfied with the example coin flips (note that you didn't give a relevant justification for dismissing the example), consider the field psychology, which is interested in the human mind. Experimental psychologists often work with sample sizes that can be a lot less than 400, which is of course a minuscule amount compared to the population of the world. Moreover, one doesn't need to equate the statistical population of interest with the human population of the world, as there can be theoretically an infinite amount of humans. This means that, like in the coin flip example, the proportion (sample size/size of the statistical population) is zero. Despite these considerations, psychologists (and other users of statistics) still get things done. I still have arguments left, but I hope this is enough to convince you.
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Animorphimagi
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I've watched all of DBZ, DB, and DBGT. I own all of DBZ and DB. I have never read even one chapter of the Dragonball manga. I'm sure it isn't the case everywhere, especially in Japan, but in the U.S. anime viewers trumps manga readers by at least a 4:1 margin.
If they had asked who had at least seen an episode of the DBZ anime they probably would've gotten 50%-60% positive responses. |
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xzy123
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it look like just milking the series to me of course. In June 2013 they just happen to releasing new 3-in-1 volumes of first part in Japanese
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CrowLia
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@Mr Nescio I did explain why I thought the coin flipping example was not appropriate:
It's true that I am not very well-versed in terms of statistics, but my general point is that the sample is too small to make definitive claims about whether or not DB is still an influential series among college students, which is what the wording of the title and the article indicate |
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