Forum - View topicINTEREST: New Idol Group 'Lilygirl' Appeals to Yuri Fans
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Rederoin
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Its the kind of arrogance that is entertaining. |
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AkaRed
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Lilygirl I will follow their work closely
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Chickenpotatoes
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This is really good news! While Yuri entertainment is still smaller in comparison to it's BL and general neighbors, it looks like it's steadily growing. I hope this means more Yuri anime, manga and games coming our way in general!
And more cute girls are always a good thing! |
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Redbeard 101
Oscar the Grouch
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Unless you actually cloned or genetically created the fans of yuri material I don't think you can take credit for "building" the fandom. Fans built the FANdom.You certainly may, and have, helped bring them together and spread the word, but you did not "create" it. ALL of the people, male and female, who enjoy it built it. It is very arrogant and presumptuous to claim to be able to speak for the entire fandom as well. As if you know what every single person thinks. Furthermore it is also very rude and disingenuous to insinuate that people who would enjoy this particular project are easily manipulated. Whether it's "fake" or "real" if people enjoy it than let them.
So you have to like a particular title to be allowed into the yuri fandom now eh? More amazing arrogance and elitism I see. |
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Brutannica
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No, I realize it's not limited to schoolgirls, but as I understand it the genre heavily focuses on them (correct me if I'm wrong) and it seemed a less awkward phrasing than "homosexual girls" or "Lesbians." |
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BodaciousSpacePirate
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My comment had nothing to do with whether people like a particular title or not, or whether you agree with a particular fan or not, or whether a particular person should be allowed to speak for a community they belong to. My comment was directly aimed at someone's comment that they didn't belong to the "same fandom" as someone else just because they had a difference of opinion. I simply don't believe there is more than one yuri fandom in the west. If you like yuri, you're part of the fandom. That doesn't mean you have to agree with every other yuri fan, or that you have to like the same shows, or that particular people should be allowed to "speak for" the fanbase, but it seems silly to claim that people who disagree with you - especially people who have worked in the industry to produce English-language yuri content - are in a different community. |
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Hiroki not Takuya
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Adding to Psycho101 who hit the nail, I find it irksome when someone loudly proclaims only homosexuals can portray or write about homosexuality and anyone else is a fake, as if it can't be understood by "straights". As a big straight yuri fan (loser fanboy, really??) I'd like to add that the emotions and sexual attraction people feel can be understood by all "sexual beings" (everyone) who care to, male or female. Like the assertion about TaTu being irritating to lesbians, I know at least one that thought they were the greatest. Yuricon did not write Strawberry Panic, Sakura Trick or Whispered Words either. I'm interested to see what Lilygirl does, if I can, and definitely would like more (not yuru) yuri.
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Rederoin
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I would also to add that this project is mostly(if not fully) aimed at the JP fanbase, so what kind of yuri is popular in the west is not that important to them. Not to mention I definitely see a split in the yuri fanbase, and its hard to speak for any part of the fanbase without anything to show that the majority agrees with you. |
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Mohawk52
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Wtv
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Actually, most yuri is about schoolgirls because most japanese pop culture is about schoolgirls. There's a lot of yuri stories about adult women, though, and some yuri authors actually making a point that the genre need more adult representation on it, to stop the argument that homosexual romance is just a phase. I woud say: "lesbian stories" fit it best. Still not what defines all the genre, since some people inside it in Japan seems to reject the "lesbian" and "homosexual" label, though. The most accurate would be "girls' love stories" or just "girls' love", but that's hard to understand. I would use "lesbian stories", though. Even if it's not about a story, it's easier to understand. But anyway...I don't think it matters. Almost everyone knows what yuri is, anyway. |
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jymmy
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While it's common, that's only because there are so many stories and romances featuring school-aged characters in the first place. It's by no means implicit. From Yuricon's About page (I'd refer to ANN's own encyclopaedia entry, but it – bizarrely – claims all yuri is pornographic):
It just means having lesbian themes or characters. |
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enurtsol
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Pretty much, who cares about grown-up yuri and their grown-up yuri issues. 
Ya guys realize there's a yuri film right now that's contending for all the critic awards: 
Guess there's no issue with people liking fakes so long as there's no problem with people liking other fakes including fake anime fans name-dropping anime to use fandom to gain nerd creds.
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manapear
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Wow. A lot of the comments here are really disappointing, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised, given a good portion of the audience that yaoi and yuri attract. :/
I want to be curious about this project, but it's very tentative now. I've been getting more into mainstream idols again, and I notice a few of them seem. . . well, a couple seem pretty bi, if not lesbian, and I wonder how much of it is queerbaiting or sincere. (To the extent it goes in some cases seems quite sincere.) It would be very nice if the industry transitioned more and allowed openness of LGBT identities in its idols, but I know that's a long ways off. That goes for any industry and society anywhere, of course. And is evident in the way people of the LGBT community or portrayed and sexualized. The interest of straight fans is put before the feelings and opinions of LGBT people (fans or not) quite often. Pretty sad. Hopefully there will be a lot of lesbian, bi or pan girls that get to join. ♥ |
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Hellsoldier
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That many yuri and yaoi fans don't even give a damn about the issues of real-life LGBT issues is bothersome. The good news is that most japanese today (as per polls) are acceptant or at the very least tolerant of same-sex relationships (with the overwhelming majority of the youth in favor or tolerant). Things are heading the right way in Japan.
As for the yuri genre itself, I wish more characters would just say, hey, I'm lesbian/bi. In anime, one of the few instances I heard the words lesbian and bisexual was in Aoi Hana/Sweet Blue Flowers. While I enjoy the simpler yuri styles, I'd like more serious and grounded works to exist in larger numbers. I'm not asking for uber-esoteric Yuri Kuma Arashi here. Then again, as an yuri fan, I wish there'd be more types of yuri out there. |
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manapear
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I know, right? And that's true for Japan. I think it also helps that they have an openly gay and also a transwoman working in different parts of the government, and both are doing a lot to get LGBT voices there heard and more rights and representation. That's always nice to hear. Hopefully those efforts help actually normalize LGBT representation in Japanese media too. :') (I wish that were the case here in the US too, but I guess we make some progress, here and there.) |
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