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INTEREST: Etten no Sora Manga Artist Blames Hobby Japan, 'Human Rights' for [New Life+] Cancellation

I honestly wonder how many of the people here decrying 'free speech' are actual adults with jobs. Because it honestly seems like they can't grasp how you can be held accountable for a lot of your works.

Personal example, I work in the film industry, I am a visual effects artist, I've worked on a range of feature films and TV shows even if I'm really mostly a 'faceless monkey who only even gets their name in the credits half the time'. I'm still not stupid enough to say anything BAD about any western film or television production, even if I didn't work on it. I'm an adult and I live in a world of adult consequenes. If I tweet '@FICTIONALDIRECTOR'S LAST SERIES LITERALLY COMMITTED A RAPE AGAINST MY TELEVISION'S LCD PANEL. HE IS WORTHLESS' and I find my employer contracted to that director's latest production I risk that person going 'Wait, does this miserable shit work for your company that we are paying a lot of money to?' and now face a serious threat to my employment caused only to my own stupidity. And again, I'm a faceless drone in this industry, not someone who's name is going to be on the cover of books or in the title credits to an anime series.

There is speak that can be protected. I would have legal protections if I called out my employer for labor violations or the like, but basically 'being a screamy edgelord who threatened the company's profits' is not protected. In employment or business you act accordingly in ANY public venue. Welcome to adulthood.

I honestly wonder how many of the people here decrying 'free speech' are actual adults with jobs. Because it honestly seems like they can't grasp how you can be held accountable for a lot of your works.

Personal example, I work in the film industry, I am a visual effects artist, I've worked on a range of feature films and TV shows even if I'm really mostly a 'faceless monkey who only even gets their name in the credits half the time'. I'm still not stupid enough to say anything BAD about any western film or television production, even if I didn't work on it. I'm an adult and I live in a world of adult consequenes. If I tweet '@FICTIONALDIRECTOR'S LAST SERIES LITERALLY COMMITTED A RAPE AGAINST MY TELEVISION'S LCD PANEL. HE IS WORTHLESS' and I find my employer contracted to that director's latest production I risk that person going 'Wait, does this miserable shit work for your company that we are paying a lot of money to?' and now face a serious threat to my employment caused only to my own stupidity. And again, I'm a faceless drone in this industry, not someone who's name is going to be on the cover of books or in the title credits to an anime series.

There is speak that can be protected. I would have legal protections if I called out my employer for labor violations or the like, but basically 'being a screamy edgelord who threatened the company's profits' is not protected. In employment or business you act accordingly in ANY public venue. Welcome to adulthood.

Ashley Hakker wrote:

I honestly wonder how many of the people here decrying 'free speech' are actual adults with jobs. Because it honestly seems like they can't grasp how you can be held accountable for a lot of your works. Personal example, I work in the film industry, I am a visual effects artist, I've worked on a range of feature films and TV shows even if I'm really mostly a 'faceless monkey who only even gets their name in the credits half the time'. I'm still not stupid enough to say anything BAD about any western film or television production, even if I didn't work on it. I'm an adult and I live in a world of adult consequenes. If I tweet '@FICTIONALDIRECTOR'S LAST SERIES LITERALLY COMMITTED A RAPE AGAINST MY TELEVISION'S LCD PANEL. HE IS WORTHLESS' and I find my employer contracted to that director's latest production I risk that person going 'Wait, does this miserable shit work for your company that we are paying a lot of money to?' and now face a serious threat to my employment caused only to my own stupidity. And again, I'm a faceless drone in this industry, not someone who's name is going to be on the cover of books or in the title credits to an anime series. There is speak that can be protected. I would have legal protections if I called out my employer for labor violations or the like, but basically 'being a screamy edgelord who threatened the company's profits' is not protected. In employment or business you act accordingly in ANY public venue. Welcome to adulthood.

Those who decry "free speech" are probably living in their mom's basement with no job. Such thing can affect the business negatively.

Now so far there's been no mention of China involvement in this matter so what 'm going to say here is just example. The LN is published by Hobby Japan. Although it's the action of individual author alone, it still doesn't change the fact that it's published by under the brand name called Hobby Japan thus they are considered associate. The author bad PR will also reflect badly on the Hobby Japan. Chinese people could have boycott not just the author but also include HJ or worse, the Chinese government could easily ban the entire product HJ and they have the right to do so. So it's no wonder that HJ took such a drastic action on the novel. As a publisher, you are hold accountable on the action of the author you choose to employ.

He had every right to say what he wanted.

The publisher also has every right to no longer do business with the author for what he said.

China also has the right to ban the anime,LN.

Customer has the right to boycott the anime,LN,author.

'Right' is a mutual thing and not just limited to writer only.

Agin I do not want to live in a planet anymore if a man loses his job because of wrong think.

Zapdos wrote:

He had every right to say what he wanted. The publisher also has every right to no longer do business with the author for what he said. China also has the right to ban the anime,LN. Customer has the right to boycott the anime,LN,author. 'Right' is a mutual thing and not just limited to writer only.

Indeed, however I think a lot of people have issue with the fact it rarely reaches that last one. We as consumers rarely have the chance to 'vote with our wallet' in these instances. Of the recent controversies, only Kenshin is going to be available for customers to have the choice to either support it or not support it and let the market decide. New Life+ won't, although given it reached almost 20 volumes, apparently fans we're okay with it until then. The only way it could happen for New Life+ is if he either finds another publisher or self-publishes the remaining works if he has the copyright to do so.

-Stuart Smith

wintersun wrote:

Agin I do not want to live in a planet anymore if a man loses his job because of wrong think.

By "wrong think" you mean racism. Let's not mince words here. You're talking about racism. You don't want to live on a planet anymore where blatant racism can cause consequences such as losing one's job.

Does no one else find it grossly alarming that this guy is calling actual Human Rights a "bludgeon that ruins lives"? That he's talking as if Human Rights shouldn't be universally respected above all things? Who cares that people are discriminated, hated and murdered for their skin color, so long as some dude can publish a [expletive] isekai LN.

I'm honestly glad he made this comment. Now I know for certain that I never want to be involved with this person's work. Jesus, what a piece of shit

Okay, wait, so talking about gassing people would make it okay to fire him? Why? Don't guys who want to gas people also have the right to earn a living and eat and stuff?

Even you it seems have some lines you feel are worth firing someone when they cross them.

The guy was a racist. He posted blatantly racist things. There are countless non-racist people who struggle to make ends meet, struggle to earn a living, and would love to have their works published. Maybe we should focus on how to improve society and help them, instead of worrying about the poor racist fired for being racist.

And saying that someone fired for being racist was fired for "wrongthink" is a dismissive obscuring of the issue. At least now you're not mincing words about what the guy was, but like I said, even you still have lines you feel are worth firing people for when they cross them.

Those who decry "free speech" are probably living in their mom's basement with no job. Such thing can affect the business negatively.

Now so far there's been no mention of China involvement in this matter so what 'm going to say here is just example or hypothetical. The LN is published by Hobby Japan. Although it's the action of individual author alone, it still doesn't change the fact that it's published by under the brand name called Hobby Japan thus they are considered associate. The author bad PR will also reflect badly on the Hobby Japan. Chinese people could have boycott not just the author but also include HJ or worse, the Chinese government could easily ban the entire product HJ and they have the right to do so. So it's no wonder that HJ took such a drastic action on the novel. As a publisher, you are hold accountable on the action of the author you choose to employ so it's no wonder Hobby Japan took such a drastic measure and they are justify in doing so as the author has done something that tarnish the reputation or brand of their company.

Hobby Japan is totally justify in their action. They did the right thing.