Forum - View topicHey, Answerman! [2007-04-13]
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bennyb
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lol! Bastardization is quite the stretch there bud, and the answer to the second sentence is NO! The majority of people are still pretty damn clueless and are content with that! Unless a story carries many japanese cultural traits, instead of a "Faithful translation" (which would spend a paragraph explaining X trait of culture) it is easier and more accessible to the mainstream if it is localized. That's how it always has been. If you want authenticity, go learn japanese, and buy tankobans! |
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Mylene
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At least from the way I read the rules, it doesn't have to be a true "rant" but rather an essay on a topic. I would assume raves would be fine. |
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Ai no Kareshi
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I think bennyb has a very good point. No translation pleases everyone. If staying true to the original is that important to you, you really ought to read the original itself. Last edited by Ai no Kareshi on Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:32 am; edited 1 time in total |
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bennyb
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THAANK you. I really don't think scanlations are so great either, I honestly hate when people leave things like "nii-san kaa-san" whatever in romaji when they have OBVIOUS english translations.
And props to Darkhorse for being so good! I buy all my Berserk from them, oh yes. |
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Ai no Kareshi
Posts: 561 Location: South Africa |
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Well, that's what I do myself when I read manga, after all. I read the original Japanese versions. This way, I'm not dependent on anyone else for a "faithful" translation.
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10円
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Indeed, now it's just a matter of what we do with the new criteria. |
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Eos
 Posts: 168 Location: Jersey |
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I wish more posters (on boards in general) had this kind of common sense, it really ruins a thread when someone attempts to push their side or bash the other. I have yet to find someone who changed their political beliefs because a message board told them to. Good thing for ANN the people posting here seem to have that common sense. Let's focus on our common ground, our love of anime. 
That stood out to me too. I'm a big Hime fan, and even I couldn't stand the manga. As for the rant, we've come a long way from the days of "HELF" or "destroying" people. If a name instead of "onii-chan" or a cross removed so to not piss people off if the worst of it, then that's just fine with me. |
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Kouji
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I don't see why people are so obsessed with wanting to see anime movies in theaters, anyway. I personally hate going to the movies. It's annoying when people talk during the movie, especially on cellphones or when kids spoil the movie for you. I remember going to see The Lion King when it first came out in theaters years ago and there was a little girl who had already seen it and she was telling everything that was going to happen before it does. I'd rather not repeat that experience. The last time I went to the movies was to see the first Pirates Of The Caribbean movie and there was an obnoxious lady behind me talking on her cellphone the entire time and I couldn't concentrate on the movie at all which really ruined the experience for me. Then you have people getting up during the middle of the movie to get snacks or for a bathroom break which can be really distracting, and I don't even want to think about watching subtitled movies with some tall guy sitting in front of you.
Besides, when you go to the movies with a family of four, by the time you spend all your money on the tickets, snacks, and drinks, it ends up costing more than it does to buy an anime DVD. I'd rather just wait for the movie to be released on DVD and watch it in the privacy of my own room. But yeah, anime just isn't popular enough for wide theatrical releases of anime outside of popular episodic children's anime that doesn't require much thinking to enjoy like Pokemon and Yugioh that also have big merchandising franchises to back them up. I don't see why they need to continue CCS, either. I thought the series ended perfectly. All the storylines and love triangles have been wrapped up and everyone was pretty evenly fleshed out. There's just nothing left to do with it other than to drag it out for the sake of continuity and most sequels end up sucking, anyway. I'd rather stick with the ending we have now than see my favorite Clamp series be destroyed by an unnecessary sequel. The fact that anime series actually end is one of those things I like about anime, anyway. Please people, if you want to see your favorite series continued, at least give a logical reason why it should be other than it's your favorite series. I hate it when people whine about a show ending and don't even give a reason why they want it to continue. |
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Mid-Boss
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I never thought about that political question before...personally, I like the libertarian ideas.
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naruto fan 09812
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If the manga compainies gave out faithful translations the manga compainies would make as not much money as its do. Reading manga is already niche enough and giving faithful translations to manga would only made manga compaines lose money in the long run. Keep in mind that manga compaines are not catering to you and there are in the business to make money. There are not there to do worthless fanservice to fans. In the long they are there to expand the audicences of manga and therefore making more money for them.
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Neverwhere
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Just to be clear, in my last paragraph I *did* say I read the originals, but I also like to support the english releases as well, because I want the publishers to do well and give everyone a chance to read great manga. 
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kolibri
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Dark Horse needs some love - they do an excellent job in very faithfully translating a localizing manga. But another publisher that needs a spotlight is Vertical - because they are bringing out older but very high quality manga that certainly deserves to be published here like Osamu Tezuka's Buddha or Ode to Kirihito, or Keiko Takemiya's To Terra.
I find it interesting that just the mere mentioning of lolicon will start a lolicon debate (And that's all I'll say about it...)
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MsCongeniality
Posts: 14 Location: Midnight Ocean |
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Okay, I admit it, I didn't make it all the way through this week's rant but I'm going to comment on it anyway.
I started out fine, if not nodding along, then at least not shaking my head in bemusement or annoyance as I have with so many previous rants. When I got to the sentence on Ikki Tousen/Battle Vixens and Keith Giffen, however, I completely derailed. The attitude of 'I don't know who this guy is, therefore he can't possibly be worth anything' is one that has always bothered me, no matter what forum it is presented in, and I could not read the rest of the essay without having my perceptions colored by it. You can say what you will, you can call me an Old School Comics Geek or even a Blue Beetle fangirl.* I guarantee, however, that there were enough people who, like me, stopped in the store and picked up a copy of the book saying to themselves 'Well, this isn't my usual fare, but if Keith Giffen worked on it then I might give it a chance' to more than make up for any problems the ranter might have with the arrangement. Believe it or not, American comics and manga do have a crossover audience. The bottom line is, localization improves story comprehension and, by extension, manga sales regardless of who is responsible for it. *Which I totally am, and Ted was never written half as well as he was under Giffen/DeMatteis.[/b] |
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HeeroTX
Posts: 2046 Location: Austin, TX |
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Query: Did you find that you LIKED Ikkitousen/Battle Vixens? I mean, it's fairly unlike Blue Beetle at ANY phase of it's run, and in this instance I think you are better served by pushing to your niche (manga fans) rather than giving another NICHE (comic fans) a reason to "take a peek". I like Ted Kord's Blue Beetle as much as the next guy (the compressed air gun was an interesting concept), but really aiming for the comic niche at the risk of alienating the manga niche seems pointless. Assuming you get EQUAL trade, say 5 manga fans blow you off over the concept and 5 comic fans pick you up out of curiosity, it's a net loss, since the 5 manga fans will likely buy the full run since they know what they're getting whereas you'd be incredibly lucky if all 5 comic fans stay on board. Now, I'd assume the actual numbers are not 1-for-1, but really, the comic niche AIN'T that big. If you're aiming for "mainstream", that's one thing, aiming for another small niche is something else altogether. |
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Levitz9
 Posts: 1022 Location: Puerto Rico |
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Astroturfing isn't only done with anime--EGM (Electronic Gaming Monthly) did an article on it recently. Sony did it, Exxon did it (against 'An Inconvenient Truth'), Wal*Mart did it (guy road-tripping along the US, stopping at Wal*Mart's along the way)...it's publicity. It comes with the animosity that the Internet has. Go figure. All we can do is hope that Mikuru Asahina's work can steal all the people back from the Wal*Mart that opened up a year ago. lol |
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It makes me wonder when the popularity of anime will be so great to be able to regularly feature films that produce box office numbers (besides Disney and Sony pushes). Maybe only then we can expect to watch our favorite films on the big screen!
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