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sailorsean
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 Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:17 pm
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| walw6pK4Alo wrote: |
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| SongstressCela wrote: |
| Quote: | | Highlights first would be nice, and forget the dub on SZS, just translate the blackboards. |
Don't you DARE forget the dub! Consider at least one on the spot preorder gone if there's no dub. I don't care how referential a series it is. |
Okay, okay! It can have a dub. I just probably won't watch it because I can't imagine losing most of the references. |
It can have all the dub it wants, but it's not going to easily replicate the same feeling.
| omnistry wrote: | | YAY! One of '07's funniest comedies (behind Hayate) is finally coming here! Now let's hope they get a TV deal over here 'cause the humor is f**king golden! |
Aside from satellite channels, there won't be any TV deal. |
Have you NOT seen School Rumble?
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walw6pK4Alo
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:21 pm
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I have, it seemed like a much easier show to dub.
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DomFortress
Joined: 13 Feb 2009
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Location: Richmond BC, Canada
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:26 pm
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| Unit 03.5-ish wrote: | | I can at least provide a counterpoint to this -- my hard-on for ginormous robots is very apparent, I hope, but some people will never ever even give a glance at Eva or FMP no matter what you tell them. |
Not even glance at, or bash just because they're mecha? You complain about My Bride is a Mermaid based on the typical harem tropes, but so much of the show is based on character humor.
Also, the number of regular male characters is as high as the number of females, give or take depending what episode you're up to. That tends not to happen in most harem series, nor do parents often play such a prominent role (both parents for Nagasumi and San, plus Edomae) in the genre. |
Without them, there goes at least half, if not most the crazy humor. And the series won't be as fun, let along it being memorable. Both San's and Luna's fathers sure got some over-the-top daughter complex, but that's why they're the best dads in the whole cast of nuts 'n blots.
| Unit 03.5-ish wrote: |
| poehitman wrote: | | PLEASE let them dub this! And PLEASE let them not suck on the cast choices as bad as The Familiar of Zero did!
I don't get why sub fans are so against a title being dubbed. It's not like they eliminate the subtitle and original japanese audio track. If you hate dubs, then change the audio to the original japanese and turn on the subtitles. It's not hard. |
Welcome to the early 1990s, enjoy your stay |
Hey! I heard Dennis Rodman is from that era, you think they might be related?[/semi sarcasm]
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Jarmel
Joined: 15 May 2004
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Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 10:37 pm
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The comedy is essentially in the same strain as Meet the Parents except instead of a FBI dad you have a yakuza one.
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zanarkand princess
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:12 am
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| walw6pK4Alo wrote: | | I have, it seemed like a much easier show to dub. |
I actually prefer the school rumble dub. Tenma imitating Harima's voice in the dub is just too funny.
SZS needs a dub too. I could think of a few ways the cast would work out well.
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Big Hed
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 1:24 am
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| zanarkand princess wrote: | | I actually prefer the school rumble dub. Tenma imitating Harima's voice in the dub is just too funny. |
Luci Christian was the high point of the School Rumble English dub for me. Overall, though, I think the Japanese dub sounded somewhat better, and Harima was a downright disappointment in English.
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Ai no Kareshi
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:03 am
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I don't really have any problems with the translation of the title. Other than that, I'll simply add that I pity whoever chooses to view the dub and not listen to the Japanese track as well, for they will miss out on some sweet Halko Momoi (albeit with a funny accent).
Also, Lunar fan here. 
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enurtsol
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 4:38 am
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| Primus wrote: |
| walw6pK4Alo wrote: |
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| walw6pK4Alo wrote: |
| ArthurFrDent wrote: | | what I really hope is that Funi doesn't fail to learn the lessons of ADV, ie. licensing averything that moves... |
And then dub it and then bitch at the fanbase when we don't buy it. |
But unlike ADV, FUNimation has mainstream hits. One of the biggest titles in R1 this very day is a title that FUNimation licensed in the 90's, and was originally released in Japan in the 80's... |
It was also on TV constantly for years in a primetime slot for children and tweens. Give more anime that chance they'd be huge too. |
It only got that due to perserverance and luck on FUNimation's part. Since that show went through syndication with different voice casts, etc.
Besides, what titles have ADV licensed ever that could have achieved that success (they didn't license Saint Seiya, DiC did, if they did it could have been big)? I'd dare say Sgt. Frog because of things like the SpongeBob era. But they couldn't get their act together to give it a TV deal (they tried, and failed, but so did FUNimation with DragonBall, but unlike them, they battled through it and got DB on TV). |
Yeah, FUNi got DBZ on TV, but to do that, they had to make a deal with the devil, so to speak (Saban), and at the time, fans crucified them for it. Would ADV make the same deal if need be? 
| LordRedhand wrote: | | Actually it's quite simple to discount something, especially if it's a genre you don't like. |
What... so who doesn't want hard sci-fi like so many anime fans of the 80s and early 90s? 
| walw6pK4Alo wrote: |
| poehitman wrote: | | I don't get why sub fans are so against a title being dubbed. It's not like they eliminate the subtitle and original japanese audio track. If you hate dubs, then change the audio to the original japanese and turn on the subtitles. It's not hard. |
Subs fans are against dubs somewhat for their mere existence, but also because we're seen prices of subbed DVDs versus dubbed DVDs, and the prices differ. Dubs cost money to produce, so the DVD is more expensive, and dub-haters don't want to pay dub actors by buying anime with dubs. |
Sub-only DVD is cheap because the license is cheap. When the license fee is cheap enough, the DVD can be sold cheap and at lower volumes yet still recoup the license cost for the R1 company.
For higher license fees, they'd have to dub it in order to encompass the larger market.
For a higher license fee series that can't be dubbed or won't sell well even dubbed, they shouldn't license it at all. Sub-only DVDs won't sell enough to cover the higher license fee, even --heck especially-- if the sub-only DVD is priced the same as a sub+dub DVD. Or, the sub-only DVD would have to be priced even higher, in order to recoup the cost of the higher license fee while selling at lower volumes. (Such was the case with sub-only VHS.)
Addendum: "The Bride of Seto" doesn't make sense. Isn't Seto the bride? 
Some more suggestions for the translated title: 
10. Mermaid Order Bride
9. My Fair Mermaid
8. Mermaid of Honor
7. I Married a Mermaid
6. Married to the Mermaid Mob
5. The Fish Fiance
4. Mermaid Mia!
3 A Fish [Called] Seto
2. Engaged to Krill
1. Sprash
0. Sleeping with a Fish
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Myaow
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:11 am
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| poehitman wrote: | | PLEASE let them dub this! And PLEASE let them not suck on the cast choices as bad as The Familiar of Zero did! |
Different studios-- Zero was originally licensed by Geneon, and they provided the dub. Funimation's dubs are generally very different and oftentimes much better (insofar as they know not to let Christina Vee into the studio.)
| poehitman wrote: | | I don't get why sub fans are so against a title being dubbed. It's not like they eliminate the subtitle and original japanese audio track. If you hate dubs, then change the audio to the original japanese and turn on the subtitles. It's not hard. |
This runs both ways, really-- go see that one recently-locked thread to behold the crazy everyday hijinks of the sub-hating populace. Including, but not limited to, "I watch fansubs but PHYSICALLY CANNOT watch subtitled DVDs!", "Even though I love this show like my firstborn child, I refuse to buy it if there is no dub!", and everyone's favorite "I'm going to keep my money HOSTAGE unless the publisher does EXACTLY WHAT I WANT, because that's how capitalism works, y'know: you give money for what you want and if you don't get it then you steal it!"
Which is to say: don't fret! No matter how they decide to release this, you're going to get people whining!
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LordRedhand
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:26 am
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| LordRedhand wrote: | | Actually it's quite simple to discount something, especially if it's a genre you don't like. |
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What... so who doesn't want hard sci-fi like so many anime fans of the 80s and early 90s? |
Well yeah if you like it, well you like it. As I'm sure there is a mecha genre market, it's just unreasonable to expect appeal from everyone.
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poehitman
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:02 am
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| walw6pK4Alo wrote: | | Subs fans are against dubs somewhat for their mere existence, but also because we're seen prices of subbed DVDs versus dubbed DVDs, and the prices differ. Dubs cost money to produce, so the DVD is more expensive, and dub-haters don't want to pay dub actors by buying anime with dubs. |
But without a dub you alienate the dub fans, so the DVD's will cost more anyways because they have to make the money back with less people to sell it to.
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| poehitman wrote: | | PLEASE let them dub this! And PLEASE let them not suck on the cast choices as bad as The Familiar of Zero did!
I don't get why sub fans are so against a title being dubbed. It's not like they eliminate the subtitle and original japanese audio track. If you hate dubs, then change the audio to the original japanese and turn on the subtitles. It's not hard. |
Welcome to the early 1990s, enjoy your stay |
I have no clue what you're talking about.
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SongstressCela
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:33 am
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| Ai no Kareshi wrote: | | they will miss out on some sweet Halko Momoi (albeit with a funny accent).
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So that's why I hated the sub!
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Chrno2
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:08 am
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I do remember this series. Yet I never had the chance to check it out. Then again did I want to?
Man, y'know 'School Days' could have been a good pick too. Or 'Higurashi 2'. Oh well.
Keep those licenses coming. Maybe I'll check this out. I always like a good comedy.
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Zalis116
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:15 am
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| Myaow wrote: |
| poehitman wrote: | | I don't get why sub fans are so against a title being dubbed. It's not like they eliminate the subtitle and original japanese audio track. If you hate dubs, then change the audio to the original japanese and turn on the subtitles. It's not hard. |
This runs both ways, really-- go see that one recently-locked thread to behold the crazy everyday hijinks of the sub-hating populace. Including, but not limited to, "I watch fansubs but PHYSICALLY CANNOT watch subtitled DVDs!" |
Didn't you read the thread? DVD subtitles "clash" with the anime by standing out against the background so much that they're actually readable instead of blending in with the artwork, and somehow yellow colors cause eyecancer while blue, pink, green, etc. don't.
| Quote: | | Subs fans are against dubs somewhat for their mere existence, but also because we're seen prices of subbed DVDs versus dubbed DVDs, and the prices differ. Dubs cost money to produce, so the DVD is more expensive, and dub-haters don't want to pay dub actors by buying anime with dubs. |
Strange, I never hear dub fans who don't watch subtitled anime complaining about having to pay subtitle script writers and timers. Sure the costs are different, but it's the same principle. If dubs hadn't come along and made anime more popular by being more accessible to more people, sub fans would still be paying the ultra-high niche Bandai Visual product prices they paid in the VHS era. And in this day and age when you can get 26-episode series on sale for as low as $27, that can't be considered "paying too much for the dub" by any reasonable standards.
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bayoab
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Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:28 am
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| poehitman wrote: |
| walw6pK4Alo wrote: | | Subs fans are against dubs somewhat for their mere existence, but also because we're seen prices of subbed DVDs versus dubbed DVDs, and the prices differ. Dubs cost money to produce, so the DVD is more expensive, and dub-haters don't want to pay dub actors by buying anime with dubs. |
But without a dub you alienate the dub fans, so the DVD's will cost more anyways because they have to make the money back with less people to sell it to. |
It costs an extra $40k per disc to dub it. If you don't at least gain that many buyers, you are going to lose even more money than leaving it subbed. (This works out roughly to an extra 3000 sales, basically doubling the average sales numbers for a DVD over a subbed only disc.)
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