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INTEREST: 'Far From Perfect': Fans Recount Unwanted Affection from Voice Actor Vic Mignogna

NervClaX wrote:

Since these are all unproven allegations, no action needs to be taken unless one or more of his accusers go to the police and there is an investigation. Vic is innocent until proven guilty. That's the standard we need to adhere to. Anything else is a linch mob at a witch trial. I've see enough #MeToo allegations proven false already. "I once heard..." isn't proof of anything.

THIS.

It just eludes me why of all these accusations, has nobody gone forward and file a police report already. I don’t really buy the “but he has influence!” argument. That will fly if say, the US justice system is just as dysfunctional as what we have here in my home country. You are free to raise the pitchforks at me if you wish, but as the above quote is trying to convey, no case, no verdict, not guilty. I believe too that the US is governed by Rule of Law, not Rule of the Court of Public Opinion.

And on a separate note, I can also vouch for the nastiness of the yaoi fandom, having been harassed by some of them once.

And on a separate note, I can also vouch for the nastiness of the yaoi fandom, having been harassed by some of them once.

It just eludes me why of all these accusations, has nobody gone forward and file a police report already. I don’t really buy the “but he has influence!” argument. That will fly if say, the US justice system is just as dysfunctional as what we have here in my home country. You are free to raise the pitchforks at me if you wish, but as the above quote is trying to convey, no case, no verdict, not guilty. I believe too that the US is governed by Rule of Law, not Rule of the Court of Public Opinion.

I suppose this is just more proof on why you should never meet your heroes, I suppose.

I've certainly always heard that he's a jerk in person and rude and stuff, but I had no idea he was also creeping on underage girls and kissing people without permission at conventions (granted, he still shouldn't be doing that even with permission at a con, it's creepy).

The only con I think I've ever been at that he's been at was Zenkaikon maybe two years or so ago? He's probably been at Otakon too, but I almost never get signatures at Otakon (cus the lines are always longer, Zenkaikon is smaller and a lot easier to get sigs at without wasting an entire day). His booth down near reg that year was actually pretty empty, if I had wanted to, I could've gotten his signature no problem, but I had heard he was unpleasant and decided to just straight up pass instead. Definitely glad I skipped now.

Comes off like you've already decided he's 100% guilty, but hey, I'm sure you'll apologise if we ever see his name cleared.

Yeah, I have doubts, and to that end I'll wait until there's more definitive proof. More stuff like the phone number thing, the biggest red flag. Being a dick in itself isn't proof.

True or not, it's disgusting that people would try and exploit this as proof that dubs are bad. Imagine being the kind of person to do that over cartoons.

Anyone genuinely looking for conversation in this thread, keep in mind that Vic has repeatedly asked his fans and most specifically the Risembool Rangers to counter all arguments made against him, as recently as last week in his Discord channel. Don't be surprised when you have a slew of people repeating the butthurt yaoi fangirls who don't like Christian's angle, or the argument that anybody speaking up is doing so for attention, or that it was all conveniently tied in with the recent Broly movie. They're on a campaign attacking victims on Twitter and downvoting YouTube videos on the subject that suggest that maybe Vic isn't the hero people think he is.

zawa113 wrote:

I've certainly always heard that he's a jerk in person and rude and stuff, but I had no idea he was also creeping on underage girls and kissing people without permission at conventions (granted, he still shouldn't be doing that even with permission at a con, it's creepy). The only con I think I've ever been at that he's been at was Zenkaikon maybe two years or so ago? He's probably been at Otakon too, but I almost never get signatures at Otakon (cus the lines are always longer, Zenkaikon is smaller and a lot easier to get sigs at without wasting an entire day). His booth down near reg that year was actually pretty empty, if I had wanted to, I could've gotten his signature no problem, but I had heard he was unpleasant and decided to just straight up pass instead. Definitely glad I skipped now.

Until now, the only specific and unusual thing I knew was that he would hijack Otakon's OtaCafe for Sunday bible study, devotionals or something like that. I never walked into there at that time of morning just, say, trying to do karaoke, so that's not firsthand.

Romuska wrote:

I'm a considerably large gay dude. I don't think Vic would appreciate me putting my hands around his waist and kissing him out of the blue. I'm also betting most parents wouldn't appreciate me doing that to their teenage kids! I can't stand it when people make excuses for that kind of behavior. It's not affection. It's creepy and at the absolute very least, it's rude.

I think part of the issue on that is that there's a well known trend of certain Protestant subcultures being much more into casual physical contact than is normative in other American cultures.