View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
|
SongstressCela
Joined: 26 Sep 2008
Posts: 615
Location: Pennsylvania
|
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:48 pm
|
|
|
Murasakisuishou wrote: | I'm completely lost on the music hate for Darker Than BLACK |
I'm not. I'm not a huge Kanno fan in general, only really enjoying Cowboy Bebop and Macross Frontier's soundtracks, but even by her standards DtB had an awful soundtrack. It really did sound like someone was trying to mimic a jazzy style and just ended up with a cacophony that didn't sound like much of anything at all.
|
Back to top |
|
|
vashfanatic
Joined: 16 Jun 2005
Posts: 3492
Location: Back stateside
|
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:03 pm
|
|
|
Murasakisuishou wrote: | I'm completely lost on the music hate for Darker Than BLACK - was the OST that was released, like, not the music actually used in the anime or something? 'Cause I have the soundtrack (never watched the show) and it's one of my favorites - moreso than the Bebop soundtracks. I also found it very distinctly Kanno, as did my mother (not an anime fan), who, upon walking into my room while I was listening to it, said "That's Yoko Kanno, right?" and immediately asked if she could borrow the CD. |
You have to see how poorly it's used in the show. It works as a stand-alone CD, but it's not matched very well to the scenes.
|
Back to top |
|
|
jgreen
Joined: 14 Mar 2005
Posts: 1325
Location: St. Louis, MO
|
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:08 pm
|
|
|
I have to second (more like tenth at this point) the sentiments re: Love Hina. When I caught a few fansubbed episodes back 7-8 years ago, I thought the show was fantastic and hilarious. It got me to seek out the manga, which I devoured all of. Then about 5 years later, I snagged the complete series boxset of the anime and was completely bored with it. It just didn't capture that madcap energy that the manga did at all, and being a dub guy, the fact that the dub was virtually unwatchable (Keitaro and Naru were so wooden...ugh) certainly didn't help
Sorry to hear I''s wasn't quite up to snuff. I just watched Video Girl Ai for the first time not that long ago, and it made me really interested to check I''s out when it was announced.
|
Back to top |
|
|
Murasakisuishou
Joined: 22 Jun 2006
Posts: 1469
Location: NE Ohio
|
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:19 pm
|
|
|
vashfanatic wrote: |
You have to see how poorly it's used in the show. It works as a stand-alone CD, but it's not matched very well to the scenes. |
Ah, gotcha. That makes a bit more sense now, although I'm disappointed to hear it.
|
Back to top |
|
|
ANN_Bamboo
ANN Contributor
Joined: 05 Jan 2002
Posts: 3904
Location: CO
|
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:41 pm
|
|
|
Ai no Kareshi wrote: |
Bamboo wrote: | Personally, I've always found Ichitaka to be a solid lead. He's not particularly good at anything, but he cares deeply about his friends. He's always the one who saves Iori from perverts (because for whatever reason, Katsura romances have a lot of rape danger scenarios), and he cares deeply about his friends. |
Was this done on purpose? Either way, you certainly made it clear what his most outstanding quality is. |
Aw crap, that was an errant copy/paste that got missed during editing.
|
Back to top |
|
|
Cloe
Moderator
Joined: 18 Feb 2004
Posts: 2728
Location: Los Angeles, CA
|
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:45 pm
|
|
|
SongstressCela wrote: | I'm not. I'm not a huge Kanno fan in general, only really enjoying Cowboy Bebop and Macross Frontier's soundtracks, but even by her standards DtB had an awful soundtrack. It really did sound like someone was trying to mimic a jazzy style and just ended up with a cacophony that didn't sound like much of anything at all. |
I have to agree with this, unfortunately. I *am* a huge Kanno fangirl and think she's brilliant and own a ridiculous number of Kanno OSTs (and even stuff like uber jpop-sounding Maaya Sakamoto albums, which basically count as Kanno since she writes all the music anyway). I watched DtB when it came out specifically because of the music. But I was horribly disappointed, to the point where I ignored the OST when it came out--for the first time ever. It kind of bothers me knowing there's a chronology gap on my shelf between Ragnarok 2 and CM Yoko, but... ugh, the music was so terrible.
|
Back to top |
|
|
ANN_Bamboo
ANN Contributor
Joined: 05 Jan 2002
Posts: 3904
Location: CO
|
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:45 pm
|
|
|
Amaya no Hime wrote: |
edzieba wrote: |
Quote: | Darker than Black [...] mildly awful soundtrack |
Really? Really?
Quote: | The animation isn't particularly impressive |
This too. Bones? high budget? Not impressive? |
I really must agree with this. Darker than Black's soundtrack is composed by Yoko Kanno. I'm pretty sure most people agree she's one of the best anime composers.
It's been a while since I saw DtB, but I do remember being stunned by the animation. They put in a lot of detail even where it wasn't really necessary. |
Just because it's Kanno, doesn't mean it's good. ;p I certainly didn't care for it. Then again, I've actually never been a big Kanno fan, which puts me in the minority.
|
Back to top |
|
|
youkai_ronin
Joined: 11 Dec 2006
Posts: 117
Location: beneath the starry night sky
|
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:04 pm
|
|
|
So funi didn't redub Love Hina....
Damn, would've bought it in a heartbeat if they did...oh well, too bad for them.
|
Back to top |
|
|
Ryllharu
Joined: 26 Aug 2005
Posts: 70
|
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:23 pm
|
|
|
Str.A.In (Soukou no Strain) is one of those short series you don't give a lot of thought to when you see the description, but when you actually sit down to watch it, it turns around to have some surprising depth and maturity. It is about a war, and surprisingly for most mecha anime, a lot of characters die, and more importantly, stay that way.
One interesting tidbit about it is that it is a loose (emphatically so) adaptation of Frances Hodgson Burnett's A Little Princess. All of the characters share names with this novel, or at least variations of them. Sara Werec is still the main character, her last name an anagram of the original's "Crewe."
What makes it more amusing is that all the characters are polar opposites of the personalities in the novel. The anime's Sara as a depressive introvert directly opposes the novel's outgoing and vibrant Sara Crewe. Lottie is very headstrong in the anime, while her character in the novel is a huge crybaby. A third character hates Sara more than anything in the novel, but has a lesbian attraction towards her in the anime.
It was a surprise delight to anyone who has taken several English Literature classes.
|
Back to top |
|
|
ArthurFrDent
Joined: 05 Aug 2008
Posts: 466
|
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:35 pm
|
|
|
well if nothing else, Akematsu's stuff always elicits strong responses... since I like Hina anyway as a guilty pleasure, I'm sorry that many don't, but? You don't have to watch it. This is a very good reason to rent or borrow or utube or whatever before you buy, some things just don't work for you.
What I hated about this release is the box art. Check me if I'm wrong sandy but I don't recall them ever wearing any of those outfits in any part of the show, even the OVA's, and the proportions are Just. Wrong. Also, tarting up the disks themselves? With Shinobu in her undies? Who the heck thought that up? I originally got this as an import, so I don' know what the original relase looked like, but I can't believe they would have done that. The bottom line to me is that Akematsu's stuff is similar in tone no matter the story, and so are the Anime adaptations... I like them but never recommend them to people because they are polarizing.
Also? A couple of the guys I know are amused by Hina precisely because things happen to Kei, that are echos of what heppens to us, minus the physicality of it. Being blamed for something that isn't your fault happens a lot...
|
Back to top |
|
|
driverstart
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
Posts: 214
Location: America
|
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:36 pm
|
|
|
Why wasn't I surprised to Love Hina in a Perishable bin? I just had a feeling and the feeling I get from writer of these Shelf Life articles, I knew this was going to happen.
I can see why people are upset with the dub of the series. It sounds pretty weird. The thing was though that I saw the series first and read the series later, so the dub thing never really bothered me at all. In fact, just about every dub doesn't bother me at all. Naruto, the original One Piece verison (Yes, I dare say it), Yu-Gi-Oh GX, and even The Prince of Tennis dubs never upset me before. I tolerate most everything, I have had pretty of practice with the stuff I have to deal with in my life. The only dub to ever upset me is Eyeshield 21, which felt like I was being stabbed in the ear while I listen to the characters' talk.
Since I never bought the series and to overall liked what I saw when I watched the show earlier, I'm getting it. On the issue of the cover, I had to order this thing online because of... you know. A bit embarrassing to bring up to the counter, especially if the cashier was a girl.
|
Back to top |
|
|
Hotaru99
Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Posts: 40
|
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:41 pm
|
|
|
dtm42 wrote: | I've watched the first episode of the Love Hina Anime. I found it so abysmally awful that I swore never to watch a "harem comedy" again. Those who managed to watch the entire series have my simultaneous respect and derision. I never saw the appeal of such repetitive and unimaginative situational "comedy" hi-jinks. There are plenty of far better Ecchi Anime out there if that's what you are looking for (maybe not so much back then, but still). And if you want comedy, there are scores of Anime that pull it off better than in Love Hina. Heck, Trigun had more comedic moments in it while still packing serious action and drama. I know this is a mean thing to say, but I have no sympathy for those who watched past the pilot episode. If you couldn't see it was that bad right from the get-go, then tough. |
How about "If they watched past the pilot episode mabye they actually *liked* the show"? Not everyone enjoys everything the same way.
|
Back to top |
|
|
darkchibi07
Joined: 15 Oct 2003
Posts: 5479
|
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:46 pm
|
|
|
Wasn't one of main reasons the English dub for Love Hina being pretty bad because Production I.G. got involved in the dub production too much to a point they miscasted a bunch of characters?
|
Back to top |
|
|
Hotaru99
Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Posts: 40
|
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:49 pm
|
|
|
SongstressCela wrote: | I suppose. Still, the whole loli schoolgirl/shotabait thing doesn't really fit any of them either, which I presume that's what got him squicked out in the first place. I can't think of any other reason why, anyway. |
Same here. I was a bit wierded out by that at first myself but now I'm up to volume 20 in Delrey's releases and WOW is that manga a rollercoaster by then. Its like "Romance? Who in the world has time to think about that now?"
|
Back to top |
|
|
dtm42
Joined: 05 Feb 2008
Posts: 14084
Location: currently stalking my waifu
|
Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:03 pm
|
|
|
Hotaru99 wrote: | How about "If they watched past the pilot episode mabye they actually *liked* the show"? Not everyone enjoys everything the same way. |
My comments were aimed at people who, like Bamboo, started out liking the show but ended up hating it. There was absolutely nothing to suggest in the pilot episode that the show was going to change in any way beyond the basic formula set out in the beginning. Either you liked the formula (scantily-clad girls beat up guy, essentially), or you didn't. Anyone who did initially like the show but ended up hating it must accept that, for whatever reason, they couldn't see what was so painfully obvious to everyone else (who hated it).
|
Back to top |
|
|
|