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NEWS: 4 Convicted in Pirate Bay File-Sharing Trial, Appeals Planned

El_PwnedO wrote:

Google doesn't openly mock Cease and Desist letters publicly.... even though I personally found TPBs replies amusing, its kinda like mooning the cops after you got away with a ticket.

My thoughts exactly!!

This is the main reason I am glad they finally went to trial and lost.

Hardgear wrote:

El_PwnedO wrote: Google doesn't openly mock Cease and Desist letters publicly.... even though I personally found TPBs replies amusing, its kinda like mooning the cops after you got away with a ticket. My thoughts exactly!! This is the main reason I am glad they finally went to trial and lost.

There is nothing wrong in mocking the C&D letters when it's none of their business to care about the letters. We have to remember that this was in Sweden, not the US.

mostly because of the above-mentioned openly mocking cease and desist letters, and the fact that unlike legitimate sites, they don't even try to take copyrighted material down. At least sites like Youtube do an occasional sweep.

So what your saying is that whenever someone in another country "steals" something from these INTERNATIONAL companies that just happen to be based in the US, then they have no right to try to bring the perpetrators to justice?

GrantZ9001 wrote:

Hardgear wrote: El_PwnedO wrote: Google doesn't openly mock Cease and Desist letters publicly.... even though I personally found TPBs replies amusing, its kinda like mooning the cops after you got away with a ticket. My thoughts exactly!! This is the main reason I am glad they finally went to trial and lost. There is nothing wrong in mocking the C&D letters when it's none of their business to care about the letters. We have to remember that this was in Sweden, not the US.

So what your saying is that whenever someone in another country "steals" something from these INTERNATIONAL companies that just happen to be based in the US, then they have no right to try to bring the perpetrators to justice?

Shale wrote:

Because if you index everything, then you're not held responsible for catching some illegal materials in with the rest of the Internet. If you index copyright violations specifically (see the season-by-season list of TV show torrents I pointed out earlier), the courts get less understanding.

But TPB doesn't index only copyrighted material. They only index the torrent files, which their users submit to the site. I just can't see why the TPB should be punished for the actions of the users.

Also, the argument that the PB owners were essentially victimized by their users uploading copyrighted files on their own kind of falls apart if you actually visit the site, and see that there are three dozen TV shows that have been given their own indexes coded into the site, with torrents manually sorted out and listed by season.

I'm pretty sure the users didn't submit a site with separate sections for season 1, 2, 3, 4, etc. of 24.

Nah, I'm just saying that under the Swedish law they didn't have to care about the letters. That's all I'm saying. The fact that they chose to mock them is irrelevant.

Also, TPB wasn't the perpetrator. The users were. They should have gone after the users, not the indexing service.

I'm pretty sure the users didn't submit a site with separate sections for season 1, 2, 3, 4, etc. of 24.

As for the users, as much as i would love for there to be an easy way to bring them to justice, it would be too expensive to sue so many millions of people and then follow through, makin sure they pay up etc. So the best method companies have to protect their stuff is to take down sites that distribute it (or in TPB's case allow access to it) illegally.

Hardgear wrote:

As for the users, as much as i would love for there to be an easy way to bring them to justice, it would be too expensive to sue so many millions of people and then follow through, makin sure they pay up etc. So the best method companies have to protect their stuff is to take down sites that distribute it (or in TPB's case allow access to it) illegally.

There is a cheap way of getting money from the people. It's called blackmail and they're using it already. "Pay $3000 or get sued" is the motto. This way they can basically even get people who haven't even committed copyright-infringement to pay, because no one wants to risk a multimillion dollar bill. This is the reason I call them mafia.

Taking down sites will in the end only hurt them, because people will start using more and more anonymous techniques for file-sharing. The Pandora's box has been opened and it can't be closed anymore.

Glad to see this happening, hope it makes prosecuting bootleggers easier worldwide. Don't care what anyonelse says, this is good for the creative industry, and good for consumers if it means directing people towards legit sources and business models that can get similar material to them while also paying the people who make media [music/comics/animation/TV/films]

These aren't "cool people just like you!" they're international criminals circumventing laws and ruining peoples incomes- not just big movie execs, but all the people involved in making films, television, magazines, many of them freelance and very dependent on getting regular work. All while posing as these cool people fighting for what's right, while stroking their egos like a YouTube user making sweet love to their VideoCam. [basically, Jerks, complete with Fan Delusion Pony accessories]