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NEWS: Section23's Clannad Dub Upgrade, Cast Detailed

They then likely cut as many corners and costs as they could (hence why it was all sub-only at first) just to put something out. They still aren't doing super since they need outside funding even to do what they are doing now. Some of the current theory on these dubs is that companies in other English speaking countries partially financied these for better licensing deals on their end.

In other words, it's quite possible that we're only getting a Clannad dub because fans in another country also wanted an English dub.

Section23 is currently doing better than just surviving but they aren't back where they were when they were ADV and probably never will be. Fewer consumers, rising costs (corporate taxes and property taxes are up folks.) and a constant demand for faster and cheaper means sometimes the companies will just say "screw it, we don't have time to proofread everything."

It sucks but so does life. Deal with it or don't, but unless you can convince a few thousand more people to buy anime DVDs, it won't change a thing. Frankly, I think it's great they take the time to try and fix the errors from the first time around instead of just avoiding the extra work. I'm happy to get what little I can nowadays.

These are a bunch of old ADV stables

Thanks neo-ADV, for starting to be awesome again. (Though I doubt I'll be able to stand the dub any more than I could your old ones. Here's hoping I'm wrong.)

If anyone from Section23 is reading: I converted my DVDs to thinpak, so the original cases are long gone. Would this still be acceptable?
I tried contacting through Section23's website, but... couldn't find a contact link anywhere.

Seriously. Update the website. It's long overdue, especially when initiating this program.

teh*darkness wrote:

Thanks neo-ADV, for starting to be awesome again. (Though I doubt I'll be able to stand the dub any more than I could your old ones. Here's hoping I'm wrong.)

So you didn't like their dub for Kanon either?

dragonrider_cody wrote:

teh*darkness wrote: Thanks neo-ADV, for starting to be awesome again. (Though I doubt I'll be able to stand the dub any more than I could your old ones. Here's hoping I'm wrong.) So you didn't like their dub for Kanon either?

When I said "gotta support what you love," I meant it. I watched Kanon fansubbed, and after having seen some of the clips of the dub they had on their website at the time, had no interest in watching it that way. It may not have been as bad (to me) as the stuff they released between 2001-2007 (when I bought the majority of my anime), but I'm not in that big a hurry to ruin my enjoyment of Kanon to discover if the dub is acceptable to me or not.

Section23 (previously was ADV), VIZ, Bandai, and Funimation have been in the American anime market long enough that the issues from above should have been addressed years ago and the products today should be at least perfect without mistakes.

There was another thread on here with a bunch of people proclaiming their love of the Kanon dub though, and somehow I was called a troll for not liking it. So, I guess a lot of people enjoy the English dub.

Not that I really care about Clannad, but I don't think I've ever heard of most of those VAs.

I wish Patton would come back.

britannicamoore wrote:

I wish Patton would come back.

You mean Chris Patton, the guy who was in Seraphim's recent dubs for both Appleseed and Halo? Who did a rather interesting performance in Baccano for FUNimation not all that long ago and is currently in Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood?

While you're right, it's important to think about where the company was recently. They'd just had most of their finacial backing and about a year's worth of licenses taken away. Then, after barely surviving by essentially breaking up into smaller companies and more or less ceasing to exist as ADV on paper, they managed to get just enough backing to license some new shows.

They then likely cut as many corners and costs as they could (hence why it was all sub-only at first) just to put something out. They still aren't doing super since they need outside funding even to do what they are doing now. Some of the current theory on these dubs is that companies in other English speaking countries partially financied these for better licensing deals on their end.

In other words, it's quite possible that we're only getting a Clannad dub because fans in another country also wanted an English dub.

Section23 is currently doing better than just surviving but they aren't back where they were when they were ADV and probably never will be. Fewer consumers, rising costs (corporate taxes and property taxes are up folks.) and a constant demand for faster and cheaper means sometimes the companies will just say "screw it, we don't have time to proofread everything."

It sucks but so does life. Deal with it or don't, but unless you can convince a few thousand more people to buy anime DVDs, it won't change a thing. Frankly, I think it's great they take the time to try and fix the errors from the first time around instead of just avoiding the extra work. I'm happy to get what little I can nowadays.

I am willing to pay more for better quality. I am not going to pay for poor quality.