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vashfanatic
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Plus (if we're thinking of the same version) it's in pretty lo-res avi format. I don't know how good condition the Japanese prints are in, but it did get a big re-release on DVD within the last decade, so presumably a decent copy is available. |
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mufurc
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The DVD release is digitally remastered (with mixed results, if you ask me), and CA are slowly transferring their subs to DVD rips... last time I looked they were well within the second season, but I guess they're just taking their time with it. |
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vashfanatic
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Right, and the .avi versions take up gobs of space on my HD already and I can't begin to think how long it would take me to dl them on my slow little connection. I think I'll make do with the lousy versions until the day I can either buy the Japanese version or it finally gets an English-subtitled release. |
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hissatsu01
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LoGH is show that even in Japan could have gotten better treatment. As mufurc mentioned, the DVD version's "improvements" are debatable. They reanimated portions of it, but digital animation of the time had that rather flat look, so those portions don't really fit with the rest of the footage done on film, and some would argue that the originals were often better.
I believe the blu-ray box releases are mostly done being released, though I haven't looked lately. But aside from the movies, they are upscales. Why upscales? The show was done on film, so.... either: 1) The original film elements for the TV series are lost and no proper HD release will ever happen -or- 2) The film elements exist but they didn't think it was spending the money on an HD telecine for them. -or- 3) They decided not to do an HD telecine because the reanimated portions done for the DVD release would be rather crappy looking upscales compared to the rest of the show done on film. All in all it's a somewhat depressing situation for such a good show that's unlikely to ever get an official English subtitled release. Even at my somewhat insane level of spending, buying LoGH would eat up months of my anime budget. At least if there was a proper BD release I could rip the Central Anime subs and use them on the BDs, but to spend all that money on upscales even I can't justify the expense. |
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Zipper
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Ew, do not want. |
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penguintruth
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I don't know, I like a lot of the changes made for the Blu-Ray versions. But that's based on screenshots I've seen.
Anyway, back on Tytania, I did think it had potential, and if it had focused more on the Tytania family like it apparently did in the novels, it would have been at least decent. I think that even if my hopes hadn't been raised by it being from the LoGH folks, I'd still find it a subpar series. |
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mufurc
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The main problem for me is not the flat look, it's that the characters look all shiny and new and different. In one moment you see Yang looking his old-school self, and in the next you see a guy with a different character design that looks only vaguely like old-school Yang... To be fair, though, they reanimated a number of VERY cringe-worthy things such as borked perspectives and more importantly, many awkward and off-model shots of the characters.
Buying LoGH would actually put me in debt. :/ As for Tytania, I just can't imagine what made them think it was a good idea to adapt an unfinished series of novels that's only 3 volumes long... and then rewrite half of it for good measure. If it was such a hassle and gamble to adapt it, why do it in the first place? (Instead of going with Arslan which is longer, more accessible, and has an actual ending, in a way. The first anime, pretty as the first episode was, didn't do it any justice... and got a horrible treatment from the studio. *grumble*) |
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vanfanel
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For what it's worth, I thought the first novel was pretty good, and keep meaning to get to the second one.
The anime, OTOH, is a mess. If you wonder why Fan keeps running from place to place without really doing anything, here's why: everything that happens off-stage in the book happens on-stage in the anime, and even though Fan wasn't even at the sites of certain battles in the book, the anime always moves him there in order to...not affect the story in the slightest. The only issue I had with the first book was that after Tanaka had told us so many times that "Tytania has no incompetents," the duke who was assigned to protect his cousin from Fan spoiler[ charges off after Fan's diversion ... with all 300 of the escort ships under his command. If he had left just 10% of his force behind to protect that ship, Fan never would've pulled off the assassination.] And that sounds like incompetence to me 
And, I'm also going to add this: I think the same mistakes Ishiguro makes here are also to some extent present in the LotGH anime. He moves stuff around; he makes stuff up; he changes relationships; his direction is far from imaginative. I've read the first book and watched the corresponding anime episodes, and I'm not sure I even want to see any more of the anime. |
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nightjuan
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That's...an interesting piece of trivia. Still, it wasn't enough of a turn off for the Japanese audience, as far as I can tell, since the show would never have survived for so long if the direct-to-video sales from hardcore fans didn't give it some traction. It seems that whatever liberties were taken there weren't as fatal as they ended up being here. |
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mufurc
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As far as I know (I might be wrong) LoGH episode scripts were presented to and approved by Tanaka himself. I don't know if he was consulted about the Tytania adaptation... But since he allowed the writer of the Yakushiji Ryouko anime to come up with his(?) own stuff instead of just adapting the novels and more recently he allowed LoGH to be adapted into a theater play (which looks oh so utterly wrong so far) so who knows, maybe he thought the extensive changes to Tytania would be a good idea. |
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