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Vata Raven
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:07 am
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ZeetherKID77 wrote: | I stand corrected.
But SAC is from the now dead Bandai, which means it may never be rescued here unless Manga decides in a million years to get it.
Edit: The DVD of the original GiTS seems to be OOP because Amazon only has 6 left in stock. Manga needs to quit sitting on the license if they aren't printing more. |
That's where you're wrong, Bandai has said them closing won't effect the Ghost in the Shell series, as they didn't have rights to it, Manga does (they said Starz owns the rights, which owns Manga). if you would notice, that stock of box sets have not disappeared from RightStuf (and you also look, the series does not appear when you search Bandai stock, it comes up with Manga)
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Ortensia1980
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:50 am
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Nice! Can't wait to see how this turns out.
Wonder if Masamune Shirow will have anything to do with it. I don't know how big his involvement was with the other GitS series (other than providing the original art and story that is), but has he even done anything since Real Drive?
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Big Hed
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:02 am
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dan9999 wrote: | So any efforts to make us "see" GITS has moe is basically null as an effort to upset us fans, and ends up basically as a huge LOL instead. |
I should hope so. As an avid SAC fan myself, it wasn't my intent to upset anybody.
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rarirurero
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:18 am
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At the risk of raining on any scheduled GITS-themed parades, doesn't the retool of Motoko's design pretty much mean they're making changes to draw in new fans, thus putting the original seiyu-cast in danger of not being asked to return?
Of course if this is something akin to a prequel, then who knows.
Producers of an English dub will probably reserve the right to cast the SAC-cast, if the opportunity is there and they se fit to do so.
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Mohawk52
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:11 am
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To me that design looks a bit Oshi-ish. Could it be a sequel of the original movie?
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BlackWingRyuk
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:00 am
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Assuming this is going to be good and it does make its way to England and America,
If someone other then Manga Entertainment get the rights, will we still have our old voice actors. Richard Epcar and William Knight have been part of the francise since the first movie plus Crispin Freeman and the brilliant Mary Elizabeth Mcglynn not to mention the original voice actors in Japan. Come to think of it even if Manga Entertainment get it they could change the actors on a whim to suit either the new story changes or the dub directors personal views.
In regards to the new younger look of the major it would be interesting if they are planning to show section 9 earlier on, how the major joined section 9 etc. I just hope to god the new story isn't just an excuse to have the show resolve around some ditzie moe character. There is also the option that after solid state she changed into a younger body.
On a side not it is possiable that she is the puppet master/major hybrid and the story is a continuation of innocence, it was shown at the end of the first movie and the Manga that the hybrid is capable of holding a physical form.
My apologies for rambling, Ghost in the Shell was the first Manga I ever read and Motoko Kusinagi has been a personal hero of mine since I was 12
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Mohawk52
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:04 am
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BlackWingRyuk wrote: | Assuming this is going to be good and it does make its way to England and America,
If someone other then Manga Entertainment get the rights, will we still have our old voice actors. Richard Epcar and William Knight have been part of the francise since the first movie plus Crispin Freeman and the brilliant Mary Elizabeth Mcglynn not to mention the original voice actors in Japan. Come to think of it even if Manga Entertainment get it they could change the actors on a whim to suit either the new story changes or the dub directors personal views.
In regards to the new younger look of the major it would be interesting if they are planning to show section 9 earlier on, how the major joined section 9 etc. I just hope to god the new story isn't just an excuse to have the show resolve around some ditzie moe character. There is also the option that after solid state she changed into a younger body.
On a side not it is possiable that she is the puppet master/major hybrid and the story is a continuation of innocence, it was shown at the end of the first movie and the Manga that the hybrid is capable of holding a physical form.
My apologies for rambling, Ghost in the Shell was the first Manga I ever read and Motoko Kusinagi has been a personal hero of mine since I was 12 |
All they need do is ask them. If they are not already booked to do something else, I can't see why the orginal VAs could not reprise their rolls again.
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BlackWingRyuk
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:18 am
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Quote: | All they need do is ask them. If they are not already booked to do something else, I can't see why the orginal VAs could not reprise their rolls again. |
True, but look at Manga entertainments release of End of Evangelion a number of voice actors wanted to reprise the roles most noticablie fuyutski, Maya and hyuga but the director (original Rei) and Manga entertainment said no
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Mohawk52
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:01 am
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BlackWingRyuk wrote: |
Quote: | All they need do is ask them. If they are not already booked to do something else, I can't see why the orginal VAs could not reprise their rolls again. |
True, but look at Manga entertainments release of End of Evangelion a number of voice actors wanted to reprise the roles most noticablie fuyutski, Maya and hyuga but the director (original Rei) and Manga entertainment said no |
Well for "GiTS Innocence" they said "yes". (shruggs)
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Timeenforceranubis
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:29 pm
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dan9999 wrote: |
Timeenforceranubis wrote: |
I'll have you know I find the Tachikomas very moe. |
Sure, you are free to find moe whatever you want or wherever you wanna see it going by the ambiguous broaden theories and hypotheses of what the hell it is or constitutes.
I can say I find Joe Yabuki from Ashita no Joe --- if you have never hear of it--- very moe, so... your point is? I can also say I could find Seiya or Shun ---from Saint Seiya---- very moe as well, and one can do the same for practically any series.
Its all too different when you speak of the shameless moe pandering which many series, or characters for that matter, have as sole purpose.
Not mentioning GITS, therefore Tachikomas, are from an era where moe while already existed is infinitely different to what it constitute today, not mentioning it was very obscure term that most did not even know about until the boom happened around 2005-2006.
So any efforts to make us "see" GITS has moe is basically null as an effort to upset us fans, and ends up basically as a huge LOL instead. |
The only thing I'm trying to make anyone "see" is that moe occurs in more places than just harem comedies and slice-of-life shows. If this prospect is scary to you, I don't know what to tell you.
BlackWingRyuk wrote: | I just hope to god the new story isn't just an excuse to have the show resolve around some ditzie moe character. |
Why are people so afraid of moe "ruining" Ghost in the Shell, anyway?
Honest question: When was the last time we saw a less-moe series incorporate moe into a new installment and make the show worse as a result?
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Mohawk52
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:29 pm
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TimeenforceranubisHonest wrote: | question: When was the last time we saw a less-moe series incorporate moe into a new installment and make the show worse as a result? |
Power Puff Girls Z?
Gunslinger Girls, second season?
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Timeenforceranubis
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:45 pm
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Mohawk52 wrote: |
TimeenforceranubisHonest wrote: | question: When was the last time we saw a less-moe series incorporate moe into a new installment and make the show worse as a result? |
Power Puff Girls Z?
Gunslinger Girls, second season? |
Powerpuff Girls, maybe, but at the same time, you're talking about an adaptation of work from an industry that rarely incorporates moe into its animated works, by an industry that often incorporates moe into its animated works. What I'm asking is: Have there been any famously non-moe anime that they decided to add moe to in a later installment and, in doing so, made the show worse?
And Gunslinger Girl wasn't moe to begin with? Gunslinger Girl was so moe that the characters were moe for other characters.
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Mohawk52
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 1:51 pm
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[EDIT: No excessive quoting. -TK]
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Snomaster1
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:05 pm
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Wow. Just what the world needs,another round of America-bashing from "Ghost in the Shell." Isn't that just swell?
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Timeenforceranubis
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 2:14 pm
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[EDIT: No excessive quoting. -TK]
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