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Ojamajo LimePie
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About Higurashi, it was originally a visual novel. The VN was released in chapter form, one chapter per Comiket, for a total of 8 chapters. Umineko did things the same way.
CLAMP kind of died when they abandoned shoujo for shounen and seinen. So, yeah, Tsubasa. I still love their Nakayoshi stuff (CCS and MKR.) |
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darkchibi07
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Considering Kisses, Sighs, Cherry Blossom Pink was one of Morinaga's earlier yuri titles on Yuri Hime, yeah it's chock full cherry blossom petals and shoujo prettiness. Still, the fact it is a non-depressing shoujo-y yuri title makes it a glorious eye-candy treat, but I understand if it's too overbearing for some!
Hmm, I'd imagine it's not so much for 'everyone' to like yuri but more about anime and manga fans being more aware that the genre exists or at the very least not just being a subset of male-aimed fanservice or moe tropes. So yeah in a way, it's wanting more attention but also have the regular anime fans get better understanding of the genre. Of course this depends on getting more yuri content being made and brought over here thus increasing more fans. It is definitely better than say before 2004 though. On a side note, it would be nice for more Japanese doujin artists (who in turn may break into the industry) to think up of more yuri fan works every time there's an anime, manga, LN, video game, or other work with a predominant female cast. The reason is most of the time they have this tendency to put (faceless) men and/or futanari in them whereas a work with a predominate male cast mostly gets the BL doujins. |
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Incestuous relationships are legal in Japan and first cousin marriage and marriage with relatives outside the immediate family is also legal in most countries. Also why should it be relegated to eroge/hentai? What if you wanted to do something based on ancient Egypt? For example Cleopatra was born out of incest, and she was officially married to her brother, though she had other lovers. As far as taboo stuff, what if you don't think it's taboo? Sometimes one can expect protests against protestations too. It's mistake to think everyone agrees on what is taboo or offensive. That fact is reflected in the huge discrepancy in the legal treatment of not just sibling relationships, but first cousin marriage and relationships where, with some exceptions, it is not only illegal but considered a felony that results in a sex offender registration in the US vs other countries where it is legal. |
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Parsifal24
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I have to say for the most part I enjoyed this episode and that one should be able to register disgust with certain ideas and plot devices in Manga, while simultaneously being able to enjoy it, that being said I liked Kodomo No Jikan, but I am fully aware of why it's uncomfortable to read (to put it mildly) for so many and I usually tell people it's worth looking at the Lolicon elements are an “Acid test” as to whether you'll like the series or not.
I also was thankful to hear Zac say that Japan is not this place that's “okay” with every perversity that gets put out in Manga. As I feel that people that assume this sort of thing about Japanese society are guilty of a kind of (for lack of a better term)“orientalism.” This subject also brings up questions about the place of morality in reviewing art and popular culture, and it all boils down to what one's presuppositions are. I don't find Kodomo No Jikan as offensive as say Bunny Drop or Oreimo because it's at least up front about what it is where as those series are disingenuous at best. In reference to Twilight what made that so offensive to many is the same thing that made Hot Gimmick so terribly offensive to many Manga readers in that it felt like it romanticized an abusive and controlling relationship. As far as rape in Shojo and Josei Manga and it's use as a fantasy element or an way for the audience or female protagonist to experience sex with out violating societal norms, it's simply put a sign that we live in a broken and fallen world where human sexuality has been warped. Also American society is not half as puritanical as it was implied latter in the show when our society for the most part approves of Homosexual Marriage, and in some instances spends more money on pornography than some professional sports leagues the idea that we are for the most part sexually repressed or inherently uncomfortable with our sexuality rings hollow. |
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Mylene
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Rebecca - A question for you: What's your favorite resource for importing French-translated manga? Do you just use amazon.fr, or are there other (better) options?
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Princess_Irene
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Mylene, I generally use BDNet, which is a large French online comic book store - they carry a lot of BDs as well as manga and French translations of comics. Sometimes I'll use amazon.ca or Chapters (Canadian bookstore) if BDNet is sold out of something - when I couldn't get the Up On Poppy Hill manga at the one, I found them at the other. I'm actually getting ready to break down and order the Oniisama E... manga from amazon.ca since it's always sold out at BDNet. (Mon tres cher frere if you're looking for it.) I lost my source for Italian manga - it's harder to find someplace that'll ship to the US - so if anyone knows of any, let me know!
 Basically, they're based on a series of otome games put out by QuinRose where almost everyone in Lewis Carroll's novel has become a hot guy with one or more serious issues. Alice Liddell has been brought to Wonderland and naturally is supposed to choose a guy, but there's some reason why the white rabbit snatched her, and it looks to have to do with her older sister. None of the books have answered the question of what that is yet, but it's intriguing enough that even if I wasn't an Alice's Adventures in Wonderland junky, I'd probably want to keep reading at least the main series, which are Alice in the Country of Hearts, Alice in the Country of Clover: Cheshire Cat Waltz, and Alice in the Country of Joker: Circus and Liar's Game. The others are all just focused on the romance angle, having her end up with different guys from the main storylines.
As a side note, QuinRose also has a Peter Pan game and one called "The Grimm Bounty Hunter" where all of the fairy tale princesses are (you guessed it) hot guys. I admit to terrible curiosity about both... (Also, thank you. You honest to goodness made my day.  )
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Mad_Scientist
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I'm curious, have you ever read Pandora Hearts? Though it has something of a slow start, it's probably one of my favorite manga of all time. Some of the events and twists in it seriously blew my mind. |
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Princess_Irene
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Mad_Scientist, I started reading it back when it was in the print version of YenPlus, and then when the magazine went digital I couldn't figure out where I was in the graphic novels, so I sort of let it drop. I want to start it over from the beginning, because I was really intrigued by some of it. I'm planning to check the library for it this fall. I think I'll enjoy it more in big chunks, anyway - following it serially ruptured the mood, I felt.
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tuxedocat
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I always enjoy manga pals episodes, and just want to pop in to say that both Rebecca and Deb have helped me out a lot when it comes to manga purchases. So this ANNCast was nothing but pure win for me.
Lately, I have been buying more manga than anime. Meaning to buy the Kitaro book soon, since I loved Nononba. Those beautiful "premium" hardback manga editions are really worth the money, IMO. The one that has been impressing me the most lately has been Vertical's lovely Gundam: the Origin. The color segments are spectacular, and quite a few of them throughout each book. That would probably be my top recommendation this time around, especially for people who have never explored anything Gundam before. |
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dewlwieldthedarpachief
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I just don't read manga, but somehow the manga episodes are growing on me. Maybe it's the chemistry between you three.
RE Japan being okay with gross manga: I totally second Zac on his calling of cop-out shenanigans. I think where people get confused is that Japanese society tends to reward non-confrontational behaviour, and elsewhere a lack of vocalness on an issue might indicate indifference or consent. But in reality, people are just trying to keep up appearances; if you ask me, that's part of why you get super crazy manga in the first place. If you want to hear what Japanese REALLY think, the best option is to a) go out drinking with them, and failing that b) get them to speak English. |
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Scaramanga
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Yeah it's also legal in France, but I'll bet you dollars to Euros people will still shun the hell out of you if you're banging your sister/brother/mother/father/son/daughter. Just because laws don't exist banning something don't think that society as a whole will let people get away with anything they want.
It doesn't matter that EVERY single person doesn't have a taboo against boning relatives, it matters that societally that shit is STILL looked down on and thought of as hella creepy (as are the people who think it's cool).
I feel like you're really cherry-picking here. Incest is illegal in Germany, Italy, the UK and Canada (with the latter having penalties almost as severe as the US) along with a ton of other countries. And in almost every country marrying a direct relative is outright banned. |
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