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You're examples miss something. No one wants Bayonetta 2. It's the reason Nintendo got it. Sega was unwilling to publish and the project was dead.

Platnium has no leverage here either.

EA, EA is a company people will listen to. I'm pretty sure when they bought Bioware there were liscene negations with MS about ME 1 and I doubt MS ever owned the rights. It was bound to come to PC just like another MS published Bioware game, Jade Empire.

With Goldeneye the entire remake was a work around to begin with. Nintendo would not allow an HD port of the N64 game, but probably can't say no to one of the biggest publishers when they say "we're going to make a new game, but I guess will have a limited exclusivity deal". Besides, it's Activision who owns the Bond liscene and it was never a 2nd party game like Bayo is.

That's thing, Bayo 2 is a Nintendo game and Nintendo is notiirious with locking down its crap. Platnium is probably more than happy as well, they get to stay open.

You're examples with Ninja Gaiden don't work. Beyond pulling a Capcom with adding a title to get around whatever exclusive deal(NG2 is only on Xbox *wink*). Temco is still the publisher of thier games and they decide where they go for the most part. Platnium isn't and when Bayo 2 bombs I really doubt any publisher would want it if they could.

Well this should be fun. Getting back the original english cast is gonna be a nightmare though.

Rahxephon91 wrote:

You're examples miss something. No one wants Bayonetta 2. It's the reason Nintendo got it. Sega was unwilling to publish and the project was dead. Platnium has no leverage here either. EA, EA is a company people will listen to. I'm pretty sure when they bought Bioware there were liscene negations with MS about ME 1 and I doubt MS ever owned the rights. It was bound to come to PC just like another MS published Bioware game, Jade Empire. With Goldeneye the entire remake was a work around to begin with. Nintendo would not allow an HD port of the N64 game, but probably can't say no to one of the biggest publishers when they say "we're going to make a new game, but I guess will have a limited exclusivity deal". Besides, it's Activision who owns the Bond liscene and it was never a 2nd party game like Bayo is. That's thing, Bayo 2 is a Nintendo game and Nintendo is notiirious with locking down its crap. Platnium is probably more than happy as well, they get to stay open. You're examples with Ninja Gaiden don't work. Beyond pulling a Capcom with adding a title to get around whatever exclusive deal(NG2 is only on Xbox *wink*). Temco is still the publisher of thier games and they decide where they go for the most part. Platnium isn't and when Bayo 2 bombs I really doubt any publisher would want it if they could.

Well I'm still skeptic of the Bayonetta 2 on Wii U exclusive. I still think it's timed exclusive, Nintendo didn't bought the Bayonetta IP, nor bought out Platinum Game. Also I guess you missed the part where I mention Gears of War is under question from PS owners because MS doesn't own the Gears series despite being published by the same company, and Epic Game has said they wanted to bring Gears to Playstation implying it could come to PS3/PS4 in the future. Also Nintendo and Activision lied that Goldeneye was Wii exclusive and said no PS3/360 port, yet now it's already on PS3 and 360. The Ninja Gaiden example work because Ninja Gaiden is owned by Tecmo yet NG2 was published by MS, so how do you know that SEGA still own Bayonetta IP yet allowed Nintendo to publish the 2nd game for Wii U?, Nintendo published Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge for Wii U and people said that version would never get a PS3/360 release, yet it ended up on PS3/360 a year later. So how are you so sure Bayonetta 2 is not timed exclusive, it's possible that Nintendo could be pulling a Microsoft on us. Maybe people didn't learn from the past, and just probably became delusional with their fanboyism.

mdo7 wrote:

Rahxephon91 wrote: You're examples miss something. No one wants Bayonetta 2. It's the reason Nintendo got it. Sega was unwilling to publish and the project was dead. Platnium has no leverage here either. EA, EA is a company people will listen to. I'm pretty sure when they bought Bioware there were liscene negations with MS about ME 1 and I doubt MS ever owned the rights. It was bound to come to PC just like another MS published Bioware game, Jade Empire. With Goldeneye the entire remake was a work around to begin with. Nintendo would not allow an HD port of the N64 game, but probably can't say no to one of the biggest publishers when they say "we're going to make a new game, but I guess will have a limited exclusivity deal". Besides, it's Activision who owns the Bond liscene and it was never a 2nd party game like Bayo is. That's thing, Bayo 2 is a Nintendo game and Nintendo is notiirious with locking down its crap. Platnium is probably more than happy as well, they get to stay open. You're examples with Ninja Gaiden don't work. Beyond pulling a Capcom with adding a title to get around whatever exclusive deal(NG2 is only on Xbox *wink*). Temco is still the publisher of thier games and they decide where they go for the most part. Platnium isn't and when Bayo 2 bombs I really doubt any publisher would want it if they could. Well I'm still skeptic of the Bayonetta 2 on Wii U exclusive. I still think it's timed exclusive, Nintendo didn't bought the Bayonetta IP, nor bought out Platinum Game. Also I guess you missed the part where I mention Gears of War is under question from PS owners because MS doesn't own the Gears series despite being published by the same company, and Epic Game has said they wanted to bring Gears to Playstation implying it could come to PS3/PS4 in the future. Also Nintendo and Activision lied that Goldeneye was Wii exclusive and said no PS3/360 port, yet now it's already on PS3 and 360. The Ninja Gaiden example work because Ninja Gaiden is owned by Tecmo yet NG2 was published by MS, so how do you know that SEGA still own Bayonetta IP yet allowed Nintendo to publish the 2nd game for Wii U?, Nintendo published Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge for Wii U and people said that version would never get a PS3/360 release, yet it ended up on PS3/360 a year later. So how are you so sure Bayonetta 2 is not timed exclusive, it's possible that Nintendo could be pulling a Microsoft on us. Maybe people didn't learn from the past, and just probably became delusional with their fanboyism.

Your the one being delusional here dude. Every time Platinum was asked about it they said it's staying Wii U exclusive. Not to mention it's silly to compare an upgraded port to something like this. Unless Nintendo was REALLY desperate for extra cash(and their sitting on billions that suggest otherwise) it's staying Wii U exclusive. That's it. End of story. Either buy a Wii U if you want the game or get over it.

Seeing as the Wii U is selling like a lava lamp in 2013 I guess no one will play Bayonetta 2. Sad.

mdo7 wrote:

Rahxephon91 wrote: You're examples miss something. No one wants Bayonetta 2. It's the reason Nintendo got it. Sega was unwilling to publish and the project was dead. Platnium has no leverage here either. EA, EA is a company people will listen to. I'm pretty sure when they bought Bioware there were liscene negations with MS about ME 1 and I doubt MS ever owned the rights. It was bound to come to PC just like another MS published Bioware game, Jade Empire. With Goldeneye the entire remake was a work around to begin with. Nintendo would not allow an HD port of the N64 game, but probably can't say no to one of the biggest publishers when they say "we're going to make a new game, but I guess will have a limited exclusivity deal". Besides, it's Activision who owns the Bond liscene and it was never a 2nd party game like Bayo is. That's thing, Bayo 2 is a Nintendo game and Nintendo is notiirious with locking down its crap. Platnium is probably more than happy as well, they get to stay open. You're examples with Ninja Gaiden don't work. Beyond pulling a Capcom with adding a title to get around whatever exclusive deal(NG2 is only on Xbox *wink*). Temco is still the publisher of thier games and they decide where they go for the most part. Platnium isn't and when Bayo 2 bombs I really doubt any publisher would want it if they could. Well I'm still skeptic of the Bayonetta 2 on Wii U exclusive. I still think it's timed exclusive, Nintendo didn't bought the Bayonetta IP, nor bought out Platinum Game. Also I guess you missed the part where I mention Gears of War is under question from PS owners because MS doesn't own the Gears series despite being published by the same company, and Epic Game has said they wanted to bring Gears to Playstation implying it could come to PS3/PS4 in the future. Also Nintendo and Activision lied that Goldeneye was Wii exclusive and said no PS3/360 port, yet now it's already on PS3 and 360. The Ninja Gaiden example work because Ninja Gaiden is owned by Tecmo yet NG2 was published by MS, so how do you know that SEGA still own Bayonetta IP yet allowed Nintendo to publish the 2nd game for Wii U?, Nintendo published Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge for Wii U and people said that version would never get a PS3/360 release, yet it ended up on PS3/360 a year later. So how are you so sure Bayonetta 2 is not timed exclusive, it's possible that Nintendo could be pulling a Microsoft on us. Maybe people didn't learn from the past, and just probably became delusional with their fanboyism.

Your the one being delusional here dude. Every time Platinum was asked about it they said it's staying Wii U exclusive. Not to mention it's silly to compare an upgraded port to something like this. Unless Nintendo was REALLY desperate for extra cash(and their sitting on billions that suggest otherwise) it's staying Wii U exclusive. That's it. End of story. Either buy a Wii U if you want the game or get over it.

Also I guess you missed the part where I mention Gears of War is under question from PS owners because MS doesn't own the Gears series despite being published by the same company, and Epic Game has said they wanted to bring Gears to Playstation implying it could come to PS3/PS4 in the future.

Also Nintendo and Activision lied that Goldeneye was Wii exclusive and said no PS3/360 port, yet now it's already on PS3 and 360.

The Ninja Gaiden example work because Ninja Gaiden is owned by Tecmo yet NG2 was published by MS

so how do you know that SEGA still own Bayonetta IP yet allowed Nintendo to publish the 2nd game for Wii U?

Nintendo published Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor's Edge for Wii U

people said that version would never get a PS3/360 release, yet it ended up on PS3/360 a year later.

So how are you so sure Bayonetta 2 is not timed exclusive, it's possible that Nintendo could be pulling a Microsoft on us.

No, I had many experiences with "exclusives" I can tell this is a timed exclusive.

The Bayonetta 2 Wii-U exclusive is similar to Goldeneye on Wii that ended up on PS3/360,

Mass Effect 1 which ended up on PS3

I don't think you have a lot of experiences with exclusives

just because Nintendo published and helped with Bayonetta 2 doesn't mean it'll be permanently exclusive on Wii U.

I have many experiences with exclusives after seeing Goldeneye, Mass Effect 1, Star Ocean 4, and Ninja Gaiden 2 losing their "exclusivity" and got ported on another console.

Last time, I check Nintendo doesn't own the Bayonetta IP, Nintendo didn't even bought out Platinum Studio. So this make Bayonetta 2 on Wii U timed exclusive.

Sorry for going off topic but I don't think people have look back at past exclusives that no longer became exclusive anymore.

How many exclusives were later ported a gen later. Lots. It's all talk.

No they did't, they just did'nt want to announce ports while the game they want you to buy is out. Also I'm pretty sure Activision does not equal Nintendo and you know what Activison dosen't have a precedent of making exclusive titles. Who you know who does? Nintendo.

No it dosen't. Ninja Gaiden 2 is still exclusive to Xbox. Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 isn't. It's a "new game". Just like there's a Code Veronica X, why do you think there's an X?

Seriously? This is your proof. You do know that in Japan it's published by Temco.

Did you also know Sqaure allowed Ubisoft to publish Drakengard 2. Or that Deep Silver uses Sqaure to distrubute it's games thats why at some trade shows thier games appear in square booths. You know what this means? Nothing.

Really because I doubt it? Because then you would not only know that pretty mch every Nintendo published game stays exclusive, but that a lot of exclusives stay that way as well. Hmm where's MGS4 on 360. Or AC6 on my PS3?

No it's not. There's a big difference. BIOWARE WAS BOUGHT BY EA. Do you really not understand context here? They were bought by a big thrid party company and then did'nt even quickly get out PS3 versions of thier games. It took awhile for ME2 to show up and there was no ME1 yet. What does that tell you? Well I think it tells you that no PS3 version was ever in Bioware's mind until something big happen. Only later is ME1 ported and it's for a re-release that they make no big deal out of. Last time I checked, Bayo 2 is a new game. The situations are nothing a like.

Published, saved, funded, marketed, and created a relationship with the company. This is more then "oh can't get your game out here by launch and what us to give you some marketing and launch title hype, yeah well we will publish it in west, you just stick to Japan" as seen if your terrible NG3 example.

No.

ME1-Only changed because another company bought them.

Star Ocean 4-Never exclusive, it dosen't even have the only on xbox tag on it.

Ninja Gaiden 2-Still exclusive.

Great logic. I guess this describes every exclusive ever. I guess Sony bought Konami, Sega, Square, ect ect...

oh wait...

And when they do what will they see? That the number of games that stayed exclusive out-weigh you 3 or 4 terrible examples?

uh, where were you when Ninja Gaiden 1 on Xbox got a PS3 port?

What about The Godfather: The game got a enhanced next-gen port a year later:

It still lying under my view, Nintendo knew Goldeneye on Wii was going to get a 360/PS3 port. Now how do you know they're not hiding that Bayonetta 2 is timed exclusive.

Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 isn't a new game

it's a enhanced port under a different name so they can circumvent some exclusive restriction.

Ninja Gaiden 2 and Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is the same game as in same story, same gameplay, the only thing differ is content for PS3 and 360 version. Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is not a "new game".

Yeah and you know how many people said that version will not see a PS3/360 port, and guess what it's now on PS3 and 360.

Yeah, and Square Enix publish Call of Duty for Activision in Japan, so what. I don't see how this is relevent.

MGS4 could come to Xbox One in the future.

You don't get the point do you?

Mass Effect 1 was published by Microsoft, when EA bought Bioware, Microsoft [url=http://www.ign.com/articles/2010/08/17/microsoft-responds-to-mass-effect-2-jumping-ship]released this statement after ME2 got ported to PS3 saying ME1 would remain exclusive to 360

5 years after it's 360 debut, and 2 years after this statement is made Mass Effect 1 got a PS3 port.

Answer me this: [u]Why did it took so long for EA to get ME1 a PS3 port?

Why didn't ME1 get ported immediately after EA bought out Bioware?

Why did many people claimed that ME1 will never see a PS3 port until now?

It's because MS has ME1 under the exclusive contract,

after that contract end EA was allowed to port ME1 to PS3

[i]How do you know Nintendo is not pulling a Microsoft on this one, it could be the first time Nintendo could do such a thing? Maybe Bayonetta 2 on Wii U is timed exclusive.

I don't know how this is relevent.

ME1-refer above about how MS said ME1 would remain 360 exclusive and 2 years later, it's on PS3.

Star Ocean 4-many people said that it will never get a PS3 release until a year after it's Xbox 360 release.

way you're saying Bayonetta 2 will never get a PS4/Xbox One release.

I don't understand how is that relevent. Metal Gear Solid 4 will probably get a Xbox One port, Sega's Yakuza 1 and 2 are getting Wii U release, Final Fantasy 13 is on 360 also. I don't get this one what you're saying.

Last time, I check Nintendo doesn't own the Bayonetta IP, Nintendo didn't even bought out Platinum Studio. So this make Bayonetta 2 on Wii U timed exclusive.

Again, until I don't see a PS4/Xbox One port of Bayonetta 2 and I'm proven wrong, then Bayonetta 2 on Wii U is timed exclusive.