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Spotlesseden
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yeah i think the first half of this anime is not very good. The second half is much better.
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Joe Carpenter
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wow, I couldn't disagree more with this review, Eureka 7 is a classic and this isn't nostalgic hindsight talking, I re-visited the show early last and year and it only confirmed it's status as one of my favorites
now I wont lie, re-watching it was a nostalgic experience, E7 was the last show that I watched on Adult Swim that I really got into, nothing else I watched from the period where E7 ended in 2007 to when I stopped watching anime on Adult Swim in 2008 captivated me as much, but that said I know a good series when I see one and E7 is a good series one thing I love in particular is the world that it's set in, it's an intriguing mixture of the alien and futuristic alongside the familiar and modern, which is just enough to make everything feel grounded and believable I also love the political themes of the series, like Fullmetal Alchemist it was a series that was not afraid to make some unvarnished statements about the Iraq war that was going on at the time, it just does so in a sci fi context whereas FMA did so in a fantasy one |
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Looneygamemaster
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I found the first half of Eureka Seven a tedious slog with unlikeable and dull characters; it was as though the show was specifically trying to make me hate it. Then the drama in the cave happened, and I was invested. I don't know how it happened, but it'll be worth it to revisit the show.
About the English dub: does anyone agree with its praise? I've kinda heard otherwise, that between Bang Zoom's usual treatment (a script that's faithful without sounding natural) and all the technobabble E7 has, there are times where you can actually hear the voice actors confused about what they have to say. Not saying either one is right or wrong, mind you--I haven't seen the English dub. |
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SquadmemberRitsu
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jr240483
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and more importantly , it didn't ended ala Evangelion. which could have happened very easily after ep 36. or it could have left it with more questions than answers like its sequel AO. regardless it have a very good ending and at least it left some kind of conclusion though i would have to say that the ending for the movie is more superior. |
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SynergyMan
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The dub is phoned in, relative to the cast's caliber. I mean, you have JYB and Stephanie Sheh phoning in, so that's enough to hurt the dub, considering WHO they are and how they portray the characters. They're also really, really good VAs, so I expected more. The dub is decent, though they kinda hurt it a little. |
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gedata
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the 2nd half of Eureka Seven is flat-out better than it's first for the simple fact that things consistently happen in the 2nd at least
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pinder_2009
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E7 is one of my top 10 favourites. I disagree with some of the points in the review but since that has been discussed a bit and I don't have anything to add to it I'll leave it. I just want to say that I was very surprised to see that the commentary by the Japanese cast was subbed. I don't really own a lot of anime so I'm not sure if this is out of the ordinary or not but I'm very glad that Funi or Bandai or whoever took the time to get the commentary subbed.
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Zin5ki
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There is something highly resonant about this review. Less of its later reliance upon sci-fi excesses would have been much to E7's benefit. Much that I recall once greatly enjoying about this show is eclipsed by memories of sentient coral, prescient monks and other such mystical overabundances. It matters little that the world is being saved through various feats and contrivances—whatsoever it was that the world was being saved from—if the depiction of doing so takes regular priority over revealing more about the people we have come to care so much about. This is not to say that the later episodes placed no emphasis on the show's cast, for indeed such matters were of central importance to its climactic events, but the narrative priorities were frequently ill-assigned.
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Angel'sArcanum
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I'm of dissenting opinion here. I find RahXephon to be Bones' best with Wolf's Rain coming a close second, but with that said, Wolf's Rain has a CRAP LOAD going on with its story, you just have to be firing on all cylinders to get anything out of it because it is extremely subtle. It took me literally 3 tries before I could get through the whole thing, I would always get bored or lose focus after like 5 episodes, but if you really invest yourself in it it delivers and by the third try I had actually been itching to go through episode after episode non-stop. I will say the OVA episodes (final 4) overcompensate too much for the recaps and are a bit lackluster with the rest because they are rather melodramatic and drawn out, and the ending is a tad forced thematically, but is still fair and ultimately the whole thing is like a 9/10 from me. As for Fullmetal Alchemist, I'm more of a 2003 guy myself, and even then I don't love it, I find Brotherhood incredibly overrated on the other hand, it's decent and all, but the first 13 episodes were butchered, the animation tones and styles sometimes clash poorly (the humour isn't good for that matter), the final arc is rather haphazard and it lacks a bit of the thematic weight and visceral edge of the original. Darker than Black I had trouble getting through the first 4 episodes as well, and seeing how I'm told there are a lot of loose ends and the sequel is rather weak, I'm hesitant to give it another look (plus the wrist-slitting guy is gross). Captain Earth...I'm really hoping it picks up, but it lacks the passion of RahXephon and the style of E7 despite getting some elements from them. It needs to add some 'oomph' and unravel its mystery boxes soon or it is just gonna end up pretty flat. P.S. E7 dub>sub. It still holds up strongly for me and I love it. |
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I totally disagree with the article. I thought the second half was better than the first, although that can be because I spent the entire first half waiting for Eureka and Renton to be near each other. This is my favorite anime show of all time. I find there to be no fillers in it as it is always building on the characters and I even began to wish there was fillers so that it would last longer. I fine the whole show to be entirely enchanting. Does anyone know if they are going to make a sequel other than AO? I found AO to be disappointing and I pray that they make another one that follows Eureka and Renton. I mean they can continue that story where they left off. All forms of government had been sorta destroyed and all that. The show does not have to end. Anyone know if they are going to make another?
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eyeresist
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I'm no fan of E7 (I rated it Weak) and agree with critics that the first half was more fun, the second being a overextended pile of melodrama. But I do think Carl somehow missed the point of the series (as well as swallowing a dictionary).
Renton I did not find especially annoying. Complaints about characters who are wussy seem to be made by people who think anime heros should be super manly men just like them. :eyeroll: The only characters I can recall offhand who really annoyed me with constant whining were the girls in High School of the Dead. Next to those shrieking harpies, Shinji was Chuck Norris.
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Clyde_Cash
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I bought the Anime Legends box sets back when Bandai had it. I'm not in any hurry to upgrade to the Blu-ray discs despite having a BD deck (I've only got one BD: Stargate). Many of my anime DVDs are old and some are out of print (Read: Former Bandai, Viz, Tokyopop, ADV, MB, Manga Entertainment, Urban Vision, and CPM titles). Unless you're sitting very close to the TV and/or have a big TV (I've got a 24" I use for a computer monitor and a 22" for watching TV/movies.), the difference isn't that noticeable.
My main gripe with Eureka Seven: If humans and Coralians (For simplicity's sake, I'll focus on the humanoid variety and ignore the antibodies, Kute class, and garden-variety scubs) both evolved separately, independently, each on distant planets, HOW ARE EUREKA AND RENTON EVEN ABLE TO INTERBREED AND PRODUCE VIABLE OFFSPRING? THEIR MOST BASIC PHYSIOLOGY SHOULDN'T ALLOW HYBRIDIZATION! First, are Coralians people? They're clearly not any subspecies of Homo sapiens and dictionary definitions generally specify that only human beings can be considered people. Even if we broadened the definition of "people", as we probably should in this case, these people still wouldn't be human nor any other species of monkey. Humans are a subset of apes, so if you're not an ape, then you can't be human (As members of the infraorder Catarrhini a.k.a. the Old World monkeys, we're monkeys by definition). Humans are also mammals, cynodont therapsids, synapsid amniotes, and vertebrate deuterostome animals in the same way and for the same reason. Not every mammal is human, obviously, but all humans are mammals and if you're not a mammal, you can't be human no matter how intelligent, civilized, or humanoid you are. No matter how much Eureka, Sakuya, and spoiler[Gonzy] may be like H. sapiens, they are not part of the human gene pool. They lie outside of it entirely. They're something else. Second, Eureka Seven is hardly the only offender. Dragon Ball has humans, three-eyed people, and Saiyans (We never see any hybrids of either of these species and Nameks, Frieza's unnamed species, or whatever Mr. Popo, Buu, and King Kai are); Lord of the Rings has humans, elves, dwarfs, Hobbits, and orcs; RahXephon has humans and Mulians; Please Teacher! has humans and Mizuho's unnamed species; Star Trek has humans, Vulcans, Romulans, Klingons, Borg, Cardassians, Ferengi, etc.; Dr. Who has humans and Time Lords; the Elder Scrolls games have, from Morrowind on, four human races (Nords, Imperials, Redguards, Bretons), four elven races (Altmer, Bosmer, Dunmer, Orcs; the Orcs' elven lineage is explained in-game), and two beast races (Khajiit and Argonians), though we see hybrids between human and elven races but never between humanoid and beast races; The World of Narue has humans and Narue's nameless species; ad infinitum. In all of these franchises, the humanoid races are all based on the same template and each has their own unique modifications such as weird ears, funky foreheads, strange hair/eye colors, sprouting wings or other structures from their bodies (In Eureka's case, spoiler[butterfly wings]), and definitive behavioral disorders. They're all essentially the same thing and the fact that they can all interbreed suggests they must be closely related subspecies at least within the same genus and all derived from the same source. But if they all evolved separately, independently from one another, each on distant planets, then we should expect their most basic physiology to be dramatically different (e.g., Vulcans have green blood due to copper-based hemoglobin; Time Lords have two hearts; Coralians have strange eye/hair colors). They cannot all be uniquely original yet superficially identical, internally incomparable, and genetically compatible all at the same time! In our biological reality, there can be convergence where members of once-divergent sub-classes or other taxa later play identical roles and adapt accordingly, but they will never become the same and cannot hybridize (e.g., wolves, hyenas, and the now-extinct Tasmanian tiger; sharks, shark-like bony fish, ichthyosaurs, and dolphins; saber-toothed cats, barbourofelids, nimravids, ancient creodonts such as Hyaenodon, the distant sparassodont Thylacosmilus, and Permian gorgonopsids; pterosaurs, birds, and bats; feline cats, raccoons, and tanuki; foxes and Malagasy civets). It doesn't matter how much they look alike on the surface. The physiology of an organism determines what it is. The more distantly related they are, the deeper you have to look for similarities, but if they're related at all, then the deeper you look, the more similar they'll be. TL;DR: Eureka Seven has joined the list of anime ruined by science. Last edited by Clyde_Cash on Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:36 pm; edited 3 times in total |
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shamisen the great
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^umm, you might be overthinking things a bit. Suspension of disbelief and all that.
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Clyde_Cash
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At least be glad they didn't do an anime remake of Jurassic Park. The things Michael Crichton and Steven Spielberg got wrong... 
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