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INTEREST: Elementary Idol Group 'Girlfriend's' Producer Bans Fan From Future Events After Incident

Yes because letting your kid walk to school alone is totally comparable then letting your kid hang out in a bus with a bunch of obsessed 30-something men.

Kinda like if Nick or Disney markets their middle school teen stars to adults. If adults happen to like them too, fine - but actively trying to court adults to them........ For example, one can tell the intentions if the entertainment agency has a problem or not when the meet-and-greet crowd turns out a disproportionate amount of adults.

Top Gun wrote:

In this case, yes, their culture is very wrong. And apparently they need people in the rest of the world to clue them in on that, because they're fairly clueless about it themselves.

I can say the same thing about your sick and hypocritical culture that like to stick your nose in other country affairs, this is laughable and more pathetic in my eyes.

But if people don't think tons of adults are thinking of those Disney/Nick stars that way, then they are very naive. So many underage girls from all kinds of shows (GoT's Maise Williams, that one girl from Mad Men who I don't know because I don't watch it, and virtually every Nick/Disney show) have their large, vocal fanbases. Whether it's all pure sexual or not, I have no idea, but they're out there.

Though logically it makes sense if those events are mostly adults. Adults are the ones with the hundreds/thousands of dollars it costs to go on their tours or meetings. I doubt many kids have that kind of cash laying around unless they come from a well-off family. It just acknowledges being able to capitalize on peripheral demographics.

As much as I don't like bronies, at least they don't seem to care what people think of them and go to MLP events anyway.

It doesn't matter who does it, it will *always* be wrong.

Tuor_of_Gondolin wrote:

It doesn't matter who does it, it will *always* be wrong.

This is your personal opinion so refrain to speak for everyone since i completely disagree with you.

Tuor_of_Gondolin wrote:

It doesn't matter who does it, it will *always* be wrong.

This is your personal opinion so refrain to speak for everyone since i completely disagree with you.
Idols matter is fine as long the girls have fun and security do proper job, that seems the case here.
Moreover what japanese people do for their entertainment in not your business, they know what to do and how manage these things without foreigners tell them what is wrong or right.

I didn't ask for your agreement. I don't need it. No one asked if you were accepting of this sort of wrongness.

Just because *you* do not think it is wrong, it doesn't mean that it isn't still wrong to sexualize young children, or to throw away their innocence so that a parent can live vicariously through their child.

And whether or not something is my business has NO BEARING on my ability to approve of disapprove of those things. I see people do wrong things all the time, but I almost never try to stop them because it's not my place to do so. I haven't even advocated passing laws to ban things like "Tots for Tiaras", nor am I suggesting Japan should do so. Just because something is wrong, it doesn't necessarily mean that there should be laws in place to prevent it from happening.

If some people in Japan want to turn little girls into "idols" and idolize them due to their perceived sexual purity, then that is indeed their business. But it is still the wrong thing to do.

You seem to believe that if you don't think a particular act is wrong, then it can't *be* wrong... but it can.

You're simply mistaken in believing that; actually, you're *grossly* mistaken to believe that.

You can believe that 2+2=5 all you want, and even if millions of people agreed with you, you and they would *still be wrong*.

I'm not sure why you're so desperate to defend this sort of behavior (so it seems to me, anyway). Children should be allowed to be children, not objects on display. There's a reason so many (probably most) childhood stars end up with serious emotional problems as adults.

Oh dear this is disturbing as what.

-snip sanctimonious anti-American screed-

For what other purposeful reason can this concept be good for?

He's not speaking for everyone - because there are creeps out there who think sexualising children is totally fine - but rather he's simply speaking the truth. No matter which society we are talking about it is not okay if they sexualise children.

Please, don't say that "the kids are doing it freely". Lots of kids go to sports, or whatever other practice for years just because their parents want them to do it. They just say "you'll start taking piano lessons tomorrow", and you take piano lessons because they are your parents and they say so.
Well, it's the same with those girls.

The Spaniard brings up another valid point. Leaving aside any discussions of sexuality, children do not have the legal agency to enter into business agreements of their own free will. This is not a uniquely American concept. It was their parents who pressured them into this, and it was their parents who signed all the paperwork... which just leads back to the issue of (ir)responsible parenting.

Rensie, if you can't stop projectile vomiting your personal prejudices and hatred all over every thread you walk into, I'm going to have to ban you. This is a warning. Next time I see another hateful screed you're out. We wouldn't allow someone to do what you're doing with regard to Germany or France or South Korea or whoever, there's no reason we have to tolerate it for America.

Children should be allowed to be children, not objects on display. There's a reason so many (probably most) childhood stars end up with serious emotional problems as adults.

This is absolutely vile and disgusting. There isn't any context where it's okay to take elementary schoolgirls, turn them into an idol group called "Girlfriends", and market them to adult, middle-aged men. That anyone could support a business model that tries to specifically market small girls as objects of affection to adult men is nauseating, horrific, and nasty on an infinite number of levels. Vain attempts to try and lessen the stigma of the situation by saying "it's not much different in the West" just reads as desperation, trying to turn public eyes away from the stigma of Japan's growing obsession with lolis. I mean seriously - there's an industry in Japan that's exploiting little children for the twisted cravings of older men. That's horrific!