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belvadeer





PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 2:39 pm Reply with quote
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There were a few anime released in this format in Japan, including Brave Story from Warner Bros Japan


I have Brave Story, but I take it that it's not the one you're talking about: http://www.amazon.com/Brave-Story-Region-Takako-Matsu/dp/B000RWDY5E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1431718674&sr=8-1&keywords=Brave+Story+DVD
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 2:44 pm Reply with quote
The Streamline memoirs are pretty fascinating. I had no idea they had planned to release the Space Adventure Cobra TV series, I would have loved that since I'm quite fond of the movie's dub.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 3:08 pm Reply with quote
On the "lost in a fire thing" you could name several dozen anime people have claimed that fate for like Lodoss and A-ko.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 4:19 pm Reply with quote
walw6pK4Alo wrote:
On the "lost in a fire thing" you could name several dozen anime people have claimed that fate for like Lodoss and A-ko.


Also DNA^2. I recall there being some disbelieving hubbub when CPM announced they licensed it because the masters for the show were "lost in a fire".
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 5:27 pm Reply with quote
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This is a manga, TV show and feature film that was made for ten-year-old boys, that is so ludicrously gory and violent that it often crosses the line into tongue-in-cheek comedy.
It remains popular because it has an emotional, touching story filled with great characters on-par with the likes of the Iliad and Romance of the Three Kingdoms.

Both of these can be true at the same time, and I think that in the case of Fist Of The North Star they are. The show is completely serious and sincere about its characters and themes, but it's also obvious that the creators put a certain level of cartoony Evil Dead 2-style fun into some of its scenes of ultraviolence, as evidenced by some of the exploding mooks's reactions (not to mention the silly noises they make when they explode).
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 5:56 pm Reply with quote
If they decide to go with the cour route, then a season is more applicable. These seems to be not much more than a marketing thing.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 6:00 pm Reply with quote
Shiroi Hane wrote:
In Japan the french term cours is used

I see this get mentioned a lot, but I have never seen any Japanese usage of the term. Can you point me to an example?

Eigengrau wrote:
Both of these can be true at the same time, and I think that in the case of Fist Of The North Star they are. The show is completely serious and sincere about its characters and themes, but it's also obvious that the creators put a certain level of cartoony Evil Dead 2-style fun into some of its scenes of ultraviolence, as evidenced by some of the exploding mooks's reactions (not to mention the silly noises they make when they explode).


HIDEBU! *head asplode*

Very true, very true. I just feel like one aspect tends to overshadow the other in most people's minds.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 6:37 pm Reply with quote
GVman wrote:
Shiroi Hane wrote:
In Japan the french term cours is used

I see this get mentioned a lot, but I have never seen any Japanese usage of the term. Can you point me to an example?


Aldnoah.Zero's official site - go to "ABOUT" -> "ON AIR"

A tweet from Durarara!! x2's official account [Japanese] about how the series will be split across 3 cours [3クール].
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 6:40 pm Reply with quote
Shiroi Hane wrote:
Japanese TV anime does have clearly defined seasons, one for each season unsurprisingly, although anime do span multiple seasons.

Definitely true for late-night anime. However, my answer was in regards to long-running family shows that occupy morning/weekend and early evening timeslots.

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It's easy to see where "lost in a fire" comes from, considering how flammable original film stock was (there was that story about some Japanese pornography has seen the light of day recently because the police who confiscated it decades ago realised they essentially had a big bomb in the basement and passed it over to some archive or other). There has been at least one case of British anime materials literally being lost in fires though, most recently in the London Riots although I don't believe any masters were affected (and nothing would have been stored there that couldn't conceivable be replaced using original materials from America and Japan) and a fire at VDC caused similar problems 10 years ago.

The London Riots/Sony DADC fire was basically a warehouse/shipping center for a distribution and replication plant. No actual production or archival of sensitive materials happened there, although a lot of smaller labels that had their inventory stocked there had massive losses.

As for the fire stuff... I... guess? Inflammable safety film had pretty much fully replaced the highly flammable/explosive nitrate film stock by the early 50s, well before even the earliest Toei Douga projects started production.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 6:50 pm Reply with quote
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I don't use "Cour" either, just because it's too confusing.

Cour isn't confusing at all. A cour = 1/4 of a year. It is that simple.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 7:09 pm Reply with quote
Shiroi Hane wrote:
In Japan the french term cours is used

GVman wrote:

I see this get mentioned a lot, but I have never seen any Japanese usage of the term. Can you point me to an example?


Hameyadea wrote:


Aldnoah.Zero's official site - go to "ABOUT" -> "ON AIR"

A tweet from Durarara!! x2's official account [Japanese] about how the series will be split across 3 cours [3クール].
{Fixed your inline quotations. ~nobahn}

Huh. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 7:13 pm Reply with quote
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I heard that many analysts thought HD-DVD would defeat Blu-Ray. Mostly, they remembered the VHS vs. Betamax format war, where Sony backed the Betamax, but consumers favored the VHS, despite having worse storage and picture quality, since it was cheaper and easier to copy than Betamax. Shows just how difficult it is to predict the future.
If people were honestly predicting HD-DVD's victory on the basis of "worse is better", they were idiots. For the entire run of the war the common man barely touched the two formats; nobody wanted to get a Betamax player only to see VHS win, so they didn't get involved since they already had home video.
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Blu-ray was better, but Blu fans were facepalming and bashing heads against walls at how badly Sony was promoting Blu-ray at the beginning, selling explosions and goofy-action in the hopes that the Playstation gamers would come to their rescue singlehandedly just like they had for DVD.
The company was doing a better job of selling HDDVD than the competition was.

HDDVD was inferior, and Toshiba was insufferable (there's a reason that Angry Hitler YouTube videos were invented the day Warner tossed Toshiba over--We got the joke), but they at least believed they were the "prestige" home-video format, for grownups who'd moved from laserdisc to DVD. Warner was releasing Casablanca and Robin Hood in the fancy format for the film buffs with the plasma screens, while Sony was hoping the Gamer-D00dz would go for Will Ferrell comedies and Spiderman 3.
If Toshiba hadn't fumbled their own ball, if they hadn't put such embarrassing faith in their Transformers disk, that "betrayed" the Sony gamers they were trying to court, and if Disney hadn't had Steve Jobs on their board to do all the "classics" selling for Blu that Sony couldn't or wouldn't, we might never have classics on Blu today, period.
Blu-ray entered the market on the stronger footing: Sony had enough faith in its format to make the PS3 the cheapest Blu-ray player on the market, same as it did with the PS2. On the other hand, Microsoft required an add-on for HD-DVD playback on the Xbox 360. Sony also introduced a camcorder format that was directly compatible with Blu-ray players, which they of course promoted the hell out of.

Sure, you can focus on one tiny aspect and pretend it's influential, but on the whole, Blu-ray one for one tiny fact: Sony gathered all its corporate might and charged like an elephant in must. Toshiba never stood a chance.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 7:43 pm Reply with quote
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Really, the only reason Blu-Ray 'won' over HD was because Sony lobbied for it.


While that helped, I think it was more that every family that bought a PlayStation, got a Blu-Ray player. There was no need to spend more money for another HD player, since you already had one. That was Sony's slickest move and the winning one.
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 8:54 pm Reply with quote
TarsTarkas wrote:
While that helped, I think it was more that every family that bought a PlayStation, got a Blu-Ray player. There was no need to spend more money for another HD player, since you already had one. That was Sony's slickest move and the winning one.


You could get an HDDVD add-on if you had an X-Box 360, which unfortunately turned the format war into a Gamer-D00dz war, and....when don't we have one of those? Rolling Eyes Any time there's a gamer-fan PS vs. X-Box war, regular people just shrug "A plague on both your dorm rooms".
Sony was perfectly content to fight with the D00dz, which didn't help Blu's image in the early days, while X-Box was famous for the "Red Ring of Death" that pretty much insured that you would only be able to use your player for two or three years at a time.

That, and the big bomb dropped when HDDVD's big release of the Transformers movie revealed the truth--There wasn't enough room on the disk for a big audio system. If it came down to big-bang-boom fans, HDDVD wasn't going to get them, and was out of ammunition in the war.

Polycell wrote:
Sure, you can focus on one tiny aspect and pretend it's influential, but on the whole, Blu-ray one for one tiny fact: Sony gathered all its corporate might and charged like an elephant in must. Toshiba never stood a chance.


Sony didn't sell Blu-ray, DISNEY sold Blu-ray, pushing Sony aside just in the nick of time, as we were about ready to laugh/sneer/ignore both formats off the market.
Sony had the hardware, but it's the movies that sell the format--And the studio with the bigger sell-through mass-market for movie software took the sales pitch away from the short-attention Red Bull-swilling teens and showed the grownups who really had the money just why the format looked better and was just as easy to use as DVD, if you wanted those classics on disk for your kids. You can do more with telling people they can get Sleeping Beauty in hi-def, than telling them they can get Talladega Nights.
(Namely, because HDDVD had Microsoft as the power behind the throne, and was hoping that Windows would corner the market on movie-coding. Steve Jobs was hoping that a more .MP4 friendly format would win out and keep Apple in the game, and was now on Disney's board with the Pixar merger.)
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PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2015 10:07 pm Reply with quote
TheAncientOne wrote:
EricJ2 wrote:

I don't use "Cour" either, just because it's too confusing.

Cour isn't confusing at all. A cour = 1/4 of a year. It is that simple.


Okay, this is driving me nuts

'Cours' (course) is both singular and plural, like deer is in English.

'Cour' (courtyard, legal court) can be pluralized by adding an 's'.

I read, though what I read may be wrong, that the 'course' definition is what's used to divide Japanese shows.

Is the disconnect of the differences between 'cour' and 'cours' a Japanese cultural thing that English Westerners are simply aping, or is this a 'karaoke' being pronounced Carrie Oakey situation?
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