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EP. REVIEW: KonoSuba – God's blessing on this wonderful world!!


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killjoy_the



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:10 am Reply with quote
HaruhiToy wrote:
I don't follow such things but I wonder if someone here could post information on what happened to the art here. It seems like the art director is way over his/her head.


https://twitter.com/Yuyucow/status/707705292918792192

Kvin's talked abou Konosuba's animation a few other times, saying it's mostly on purpose that things go out of/are kept out of model to allow for more movement. I don't specifically like the approach but on episode 9 in particular I saw all the boob physics as a joke instead of an actual attempt at fanservice.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:12 am Reply with quote
HaruhiToy wrote:
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wow, it's been a while since the fanservice in an anime actually felt properly sexy, they really went all out with the animation on this ep heh

Really? I thought the characters were so poorly drawn it was not possible to enjoy it at that level. None of the forms -- either the females or pretty much the only male -- has any consistent shape to it. Almost like you had a 3D model and squashed it flat.

The only time the character art got remotely interesting was the big buff guy who was sitting next to Kazuma, then Kazuma himself when they changed his design when he was standing off his teammates to defend the succubus. Even then it looked like they copied something out of a "how to draw anime" workbook.

I don't follow such things but I wonder if someone here could post information on what happened to the art here. It seems like the art director is way over his/her head.

The animation director for this episode was the character designer and chief animation director himself. Kikuta confirmed in twitter that all the key animation and layouts were corrected and supervised by him.
https://twitter.com/blackalpha_1/status/707388179125379072

He also likes saggy tits and allows the characters to look off-model on purpose at times to make them look funny and for wacky expressions. It worked well this episode.
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maximilianjenus



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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:22 am Reply with quote
what ? only 10 episode ? dammit!

HaruhiToy wrote:

Really? I thought the characters were so poorly drawn it was not possible to enjoy it at that level. None of the forms -- either the females or pretty much the only male -- has any consistent shape to it. Almost like you had a 3D model and squashed it flat.


lol, sorry, that's not how 3d models work.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:28 am Reply with quote
Konosuba's animation has been repeatedly mentioned by some, but episode 9 was the first time something felt really off to me. Like I'm not sure if I'd say worse, but more like it isn't the same people.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:16 pm Reply with quote
Pierrot. wrote:
Aw come on B? The episode had some of the funniest moments and Kazuma expressions


Agreed. The incredibly pervy looks on the guys' faces at the shop had me in stitches.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:38 pm Reply with quote
zrnzle500 wrote:
aifhak wrote:
zrnzle500 wrote:
GarethXL wrote:
natchu96 wrote:
Something about Eris seems familiar, but I can't figure out what . . .


it's the studio cheaping it out by recycling the same VA as chris to voice eris.

seriously how much are they lining their pockets with the sub par grafics and recycled VA Rolling Eyes


If Shirobako and articles on compensation of various positions involved in anime production are any indication, not much. If anything they are getting as much bang for their buck as they can. They are also probably saving as much money as they can for their headliner, Shouwa Rakugo Shinju


aaaaactually ... I think the innitial two posts were jokes. But not quite sure.


First definitely. The second doesn't appear to be


it's an in joke only the fan of the novel would understand Wink

and yeah basically there won't be a season 2 since they cut the NTR plot which changes kazuma relationship with the other adventurers although being the lowest job class.

and some other minor plot point which becomes important in the main plot after the battle against the destroyer.

ohh well at least they are going to make a yunyun OVA :/
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:54 pm Reply with quote
I see, though I imagine you can understand it looked like you were serious in shit talking about the production.

I kinda think that customizable immersive experiences will be if not the future of porn at least part of its future. The immersive part definitely, but I don't know about the customization. There is plenty of research out there regarding how having too many choices can make people feel overwhelmed. I imagine it will be available for the pickiest users, but I imagine most will pick from curated selection of options.

I'll submit this question for your input: Would you give up some vitality for good made to order artisanal sex dreams? For me it depends on how lucid it is and how much vitality is taken.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 3:18 pm Reply with quote
zrnzle500 wrote:
I see, though I imagine you can understand it looked like you were serious in shit talking about the production.

I kinda think that customizable immersive experiences will be if not the future of porn at least part of its future. The immersive part definitely, but I don't know about the customization. There is plenty of research out there regarding how having too many choices can make people feel overwhelmed. I imagine it will be available for the pickiest users, but I imagine most will pick from curated selection of options.

I'll submit this question for your input: Would you give up some vitality for good made to order artisanal sex dreams? For me it depends on how lucid it is and how much vitality is taken.


remember. rule 34

there's never too much option for porn, in fact there's not enough of it.

although the general theme would be limited but the option of fetishes are limitless.

just go to dlsite although the general theme seems the same there are some really weird stuff out there.

and some of them are actually pretty well done.

side note i came across a poll and it seems that kono suba constantly in the top 5 of followed series this seasononly losing to grimgar, bokumachi, fairy tail and dagashikashi. o.O
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 3:59 pm Reply with quote
GarethXL wrote:
zrnzle500 wrote:
I see, though I imagine you can understand it looked like you were serious in shit talking about the production.

I kinda think that customizable immersive experiences will be if not the future of porn at least part of its future. The immersive part definitely, but I don't know about the customization. There is plenty of research out there regarding how having too many choices can make people feel overwhelmed. I imagine it will be available for the pickiest users, but I imagine most will pick from curated selection of options.

I'll submit this question for your input: Would you give up some vitality for good made to order artisanal sex dreams? For me it depends on how lucid it is and how much vitality is taken.


remember. rule 34

there's never too much option for porn, in fact there's not enough of it.

although the general theme would be limited but the option of fetishes are limitless.

just go to dlsite although the general theme seems the same there are some really weird stuff out there.

and some of them are actually pretty well done.

side note i came across a poll and it seems that kono suba constantly in the top 5 of followed series this seasononly losing to grimgar, bokumachi, fairy tail and dagashikashi. o.O


Oh I am familiar with such things. My point was if you had to customize the whole experience, including appearance, personality, age, fetishs, sex acts performed, etc., most people would just say fudge it, I'll pick something pre made. I say that as someone who would find such customization desirable.

I forgot to mention, I wonder if they keep the request forms? If they do, and they were raided, that means the raiders effectively have the equivalent of most of the men in the towns porn related browser history Shocked. Though if you take the proper precautions, that isn't a big problem Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:07 pm Reply with quote
I see nothing was mentioned of Darkness' outfit the next day, specifically that it made her look like an office lady. Significant maybe because she heard that he was interested in a "older woman" type, and the whole way she is acting is different from her usual perversion.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:16 am Reply with quote
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I see nothing was mentioned of Darkness' outfit the next day, specifically that it made her look like an office lady. Significant maybe because she heard that he was interested in a "older woman" type, and the whole way she is acting is different from her usual perversion.

I did notice the different apparel, but apparently didn't think through its implications as much as you did.

Yeah, that is interesting, isn't it?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:09 am Reply with quote
I was wondering if all of the exchange with the succubus was intended to be as pointed a jab at either anime/manga/light novels/doujinshi (and their fandom) as it was. Specifically, it's interesting to note the exchange and compare it to standard rebuttals from anime fans about their preferred material. I have to assume it was part of the goal here since Kazuma goes pretty far in his inquiries (with implications pretty much going straight at pedophilia) and the standard response being always "it isn't REAL". One COULD even go further with where the episode went with that analysis... if one was so inclined. (not saying I necessarily AGREE with all their implications there, just saying)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:33 am Reply with quote
Key wrote:
I did notice the different apparel, but apparently didn't think through its implications as much as you did.

Yeah, that is interesting, isn't it?

Is there any implication regarding Aqua wearing a costume that covers her butt for once?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 11, 2016 2:13 pm Reply with quote
natchu96 wrote:
Something about Eris seems familiar, but I can't figure out what . . .

Eris' name is also the name of the currency of the KonoSuba world. Just kidding
zrnzle500 wrote:
aifhak wrote:
zrnzle500 wrote:
GarethXL wrote:

it's the studio cheaping it out by recycling the same VA as chris to voice eris.
seriously how much are they lining their pockets with the sub-par graphics and recycled VA Rolling Eyes

If Shirobako and articles on compensation of various positions involved in anime production are any indication, not much. If anything they are getting as much bang for their buck as they can. They are also probably saving as much money as they can for their headliner, Shouwa Rakugo Shinju

aaaaactually ... I think the initial two posts were jokes. But not quite sure.

First definitely. The second doesn't appear to be

I believe the the producers are really "cheaping it out" in terms of VA and animator payroll. KonoSuba is a low budget anime after all. But recycling VA's doesn't imply lower expenses.
VA's are paid depending on their rank. The higher the rank, the more expensive the talent fee. VA's have to be more experienced and popular to rise in rank. All VA who have experience of 3 or less years are all put in the bottom rank no exceptions and thus cheaper. Eris and Chris' VA Ayaka Suwa, I think, is not so popular. So she's probably cheap.
VA's are paid per episode appearance. The more episode appearances the more paycheck. A VA voicing a minor character uttering only a word but appearing many episodes in an anime series (like a Pokemon) will expect more paycheck than a VA voicing a major character with many lines and some extra characters but only appeared on one episode. Recycling VA in one episode can really lessen the expenses. But the Eris/Chris case is different since they appear in separate episodes.
They wanted to go cheap since they employed some unpopular VA's (or even some new VA) and used few VA's per episode, in which they did. KonoSuba got cheap on Megumin's VA and her explosion voice since the VA Rie Takahashi, I think, is not that popular, even though she got some major roles on autumn 2015.
Edit: Rie Takahashi seems to be popular even before the pre-Megumin hype since she won a Best Female Rookie Actress Award in Seiyu Awards. But I think her paycheck is still cheap. Lucky DEEN.
Obviously KanColle are saving big bucks by having their VA's voice multiple characters in one episode. It is because like Shirobako, the series are character-heavy. Even though Shirobako has non-popular (maybe new) VA's (at that time) voicing main characters like Juri Kimura and Haruka Chisuga, the VA's of the supporting characters are obviously expensive.
natchu96 wrote:
Something about Eris seems familiar, but I can't figure out what . . .

maxwell3094 wrote:
^It was but the anime did a good enough job of summing it up and skipping it. After all its not like there is much to miss in this series aside from more jokes in most cases.
natchu96 wrote:
Chris, huh . . .
Actually now that I look closer Chris and Eris have the same hair style (length and color aside). This seems suspicious.

Come to think of it I wonder if its possible for Eris to hang around on the world normally too. After all it doesn't seem to negatively affect Aqua in any way though she is a special case.

VA recycling on Eris and Chris seems to makes sense. It is only a speculation (but I will still hide it), but the sound director probably wanted to hint us that spoiler[Chris is actually Eris.]. The YT video KonoSuba Character Popularity Poll Entry PV on the 1:04 mark made me think that way.
My curiosity drove me to read Japanese wiki to investigate my speculation. I can understand very little Japanese but google translate helps. (I have some basic vocab and my grammar is OK.) Two spoiler sentences from Japanese Wiki found: spoiler[The sentences pertain to Chris. 名前の由来は女神エリスの好きな花の名前から。実は、女神エリスの地上での仮の姿。]


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about that spoiler:
spoiler[as far as I know that is correct. I'm not that far into the LNs myself yet since it still takes me like a month per book and I'm currently at #4, but yeah.
Hence my thought that the innitial two posts were probably jokes and the people already knew it wasn't cheaping out

In fact I've heard people say it's a spoiler that she was mentioned as the VA to begin with instead of leaving that blank or however you'd do that... idk]
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