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ichii_1
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Just goes to show how greedy, cheap and entitled people are.
Even if the whole thing is only $10 + extras, you would still b!tch and moan about it, "$10?! outrageous it should be free since I'm better than everyone, what is with this price? this a crime a crime I'm never buying anything again, f*ck you you &*(*&!@%*!". |
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BL
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For anyone interested importing it there are 3 different versions of this tile. Below are listings from both Zevvi and Amazon.
Zevvi Gurren Lagann - Collector’s Edition DVD£39.99 = $64.96 Gurren Lagann - The Complete Collection Blu-ray £38.95 = $63.30 Gurren Lagann - Ultimate Edition Blu-ray £89.99 = $146.27 Amazon Gurren Lagann DVD Collector's Edition £36.00 = $58.50 Gurren Lagann Complete Blu-ray Edition £43.25 = $70.23 Gurren Lagann - Ultimate Edition (Blu-Ray) £108.00 = $175.46 |
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Kaioshin_Sama
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Thanks for at least addressing this sort of thing as I've kind of been of the opinion that Aniplex is basically just buying positive reviews and buzz from media outlets for a while now. God knows they have more than the capacity and influence to do so considering they all but are the industry at this point or at least what is considered popular these days. I think this is a company that is desperately in need of a cold hard lesson the way they've just been running roughshod over everything and everyone (staff and fans included) are practically dictating the terms of what fans will buy, what they will like and hold up as "epic" or "genius" and just how great they themselves seem to think they are for what amounts to basically having the money and media power of Sony Music Entertainment behind them. There's just something about their approach to producing, marketing, pricing and just their whole self-congratulatory attitude that reeks of arrogance and really rubs me the wrong way and I just wish more fans would wake up and realize what's going on and stop rewarding their frankly awful behavior, treatment of staff at A-1 (not sure how many people have heard about the suicides and 600 hour work months the lower tier animators have to endure there while higher up execs and big shot names get the lions share of the income and praise from fans) and crass extremely transparent and shameless commercialism. I just don't think it's going to ever happen though the way fandom is so susceptible to hype these days, just how savvy Aniplex's marketing machine which is admittedly second to none is at exploiting this tendency among current fans, and how they seem to have exclusive front row bidding on popular licenses and have monopolized and popularized a lot of the recent talent that is considered by and large to be the best or at least most popular in the industry like Gen Urobuchi, Yuki Kajiura, Hiroyuki Sawano, Akiyuki Shinbo, Supercell etc. To me the pricing issue of AoA is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to the problems that I have with the Aniplex label at this point and I almost point to what I see as their greed based initiatives as paramount among the things that are kind of making anime feel shitty and overly commercialized nowadays and which is slowly but surely eroding my interest and enthusiasm in it even as I don't think the shows that are coming out are all that bad per say, just kind of mediocre. It's just really discouraging to see a big greedy company like this run totally rampant and unchecked and consistently be rewarded for it not only monetarily but critically. So yeah I realize that there's not much that can be done to stop them at this point so all I can see is myself just losing further and further interest as their initiatives just dominate and starve anime of all possible creative drive that they don't get a controlling interest in until one day I just decide I'm done supporting it. The day may not be far off either much as it sucks to admit it the way things are going. These days all I can do is find myself just praying that if there's some manga, game or VN or whatever I really like they somehow don't get their hands on the license for the adaptation of it, but even that feels like a long shot at this point. Last edited by Kaioshin_Sama on Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:21 pm; edited 3 times in total |
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animefanworried
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Ah, there we go! The old "OMG peoplez are entitled!!!" argument showed up. Now all we're missing is a collector telling us he pays Aniplex prices because they're of higher quality and actually mean it too. Then the thread will truly be complete. Seriously though, people are not entitled, or they believe they're entitled to basic respect and consideration is more like it. They are willing to pay, they just don't want to be swindled by greedy, corporate goons who seek to eliminate all other methods of acquiring the title to force people to pay their insane prices. People keep talking about their business model and how they have a right to stick to it because its their business, well true enough. But as customers we also have the choice not to buy it or to purchase from another region. But you see, they don't want fair competition and they are not interested in their customers' actual demands, this is why they try to stop people from purchasing from other regions. If the fans are entitled, then so are the corporations. If people are buying from overseas, its an indication you're doing something wrong, so instead of acting like an entitled brat, maybe the company could learn and offer better deals instead of trying to limit people access to competitors that offer a better service. |
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penguintruth
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Seems like Aniplex is the greedy one. I don't see too many other anime licensors bleeding their customers dry this badly. You know, except for the folks handling Gundam Unicorn. I might finish my collection if I stumble over a leprechaun's pot of gold some day. By the way, to something else brought up in this thread, I have never once implied ANN was in any anime licensors' pockets, let alone Aniplex's. That's just a silly misconception feebs on 4chan believe. |
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Kaioshin_Sama
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Bandai Visual is one of the other companies that is considered comparable to Aniplex in terms of commercial influence in anime and seems to have their hands in just about everything, just not quite to the same degree. It sucks too because they have way more titles I like than Aniplex and even technically own my historically favorite anime studio yet I can't really say I support their practices much either. I still remember going into a store in 2005 and seeing a bunch of 29.99 discs in the anime section with a disc for Diebuster priced at 69.99 for two episodes strictly because it was under the Bandai Visual label and they felt they had a right to charge that much. |
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Leland Lee
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I just don't realistically see how in your brain you can compare $250 to $10.... Yes, we are entitled. But in our defense, we have alternatives to go to in lieu of our entitlement. If we're willing to import, then your logic just fails on so many levels.
1-Ignore him. He's just some dumbass with an Aniplex hard-on. And given his registration date, maybe even a disgruntled employee. For the record, it's absolutely not hypocritical of me to say that given that I also replied to him, but I replied to him to preserve our honor! 2-4chan dweebs? :/ Maybe. But don't forget to add paranoid, not-trusting people who see suspicious activity everywhere. Or as Zac likes to call us, "conspiracy theorists." Which is a totally different thing. |
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shamisen the great
Posts: 658 Location: Oregon, USA |
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That said, I probably won't buy this because I'm fine with the Bandai Entertainment DVD's. |
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Cutiebunny
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Not to play Devil's advocate here, but in the immortal words of Ice Cube, "You better check yourself before you wreck yourself". Seriously. You joined in July. Of this year.
Honor? What does that have to do with the sky high prices that Aniplex charges? |
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ichii_1
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The point is you and a lot more people would still moan and b!tch even if it's only $10 for the whole thing, get it? pay attention
Didn't Bandai US branch go out of business or something or are they back? Either way, it's a prime example that low prices don't work, people didn't buy those anime even with the low prices, meaning it's the (entitled) anime fans themselves that's the problem they want it for less than $5. The demand isn't high enough to lower the prices considerably, greedy cheapskates. Anime is niche market so they cater to them, Aniplex has the right idea which is why they're still in business |
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kevinx59
Posts: 959 Location: In sunny California |
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To be fair, Bandai Visual is the Japanese distributor, so the Unicorn release is so expensive because it is a Japanese import with an English dub and a lot of subs.(Right Stuf has the dvds for a decent price) BVUSA was a failed experiment that did something like what Aniplex is doing. That said, they are gone, and Bandai Visual's productions are now licensed by companies like Funi, Sentai, and (in the past) Bandai Ent. Girls und Panzer, Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere, Eureka Seven, Akira, Gargantia all are Bandai ones released here for reasonable prices. Even Diebuster's got a re-release by Discotek for about 20 bucks for the whole thing. |
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Sylontack
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I like the looks of these singles but AoA needs to save their premium prices for premium editions as much as I love their releases.
Simply put, I'm happy to pay a premium price for a good release (especially with good video quality that Funi and Sentai can't/won't/doesn't provide), but $50 per volume for one disc and no extras and a thin slipcase when there is already a pricey and premium equivalent- just take a step back for a moment . I'll just wait for a local release for this series, maybe it's just because I'm not as huge on the show as others but I just- can't be bothered this time around. |
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espurrpuff
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I don't see people whining about the "high" prices of Funimation, NISA, Sentai, etc. I don't think people would whine about a $10 release (in fact I think they'd probably be very excited). If Aniplex distributed their releases at a similar price point as other companies, and in larger portions (full series for 13 episode, half series for 20+) I don't think people would have a problem. And honestly, I really don't see this "superior quality" in Aniplex releases that the people supporting them keep talking about. I did buy the Madoka sets, but the quality of the video and subtitles weren't any better than other companies. I did like that they came with soundtracks, but still a bit pricey for my taste (and taking up too much shelf space). |
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BigOnAnime
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As much as I defend AoA, I cannot defend what they're doing here. Okay singles, fine, it's for the BD's which are like a year old at this point. I can see why they'd go that route.
What I'm most frustrated with is how barebones the overall package seems to be. The Bandai LE singles offered more, and AoA's very own DVD LE has more in terms of on-disc extras (Unless volumes 3-5 will contain them somewhere) and physical extras. Not to mention this will probably continue the trend of them not using chipboard anymore as I don't see anything mentioning the type of box it'll be in. I'm rather disappointed.
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kevinx59
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Here is the link to the Amazon listings. I didn't know about the bootlegs. http://www.amazon.com/Gurren-Lagann-Complete-Collection-Legends/dp/B003P3PQNA/ref=sr_1_1?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1410764475&sr=1-1&keywords=gurren+lagann That said, the FB thread showed the bootleg sets of other series in a clear case. When I was at AX a couple years ago I saw a place selling a lot of the expensive Aniplex series, right next to a Cowboy Bebop Remix complete set with a clear case. My friend has that complete set, but it was in a large black case (seeing as that is how the official one is advertised, I am sure his is real). So what is up with the clear case version? Was that one a bootleg? |
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