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Forum - View topicINTEREST: GARNiDELiA Vocalist MARiA Reports Her Agency Has Not Paid Her Wages
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Firefly251
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Given how common this has actually been lately....just push a law that anyone who doesnt pay their employees has the funds removed from their acct (and if lack fudns they have to have future paychecks funds cut out until said amount is paid) & they are required to quit company & have it on any future resume so they can't ever have it overlooked.
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v1cious
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How does this keep happening? I don't understand how you could manage so long with no wages. Don't these people have accountants that keep track of this stuff?
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WANNFH
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949070
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How people don't check their bank accounts after doing work and see if they get paid????? How do these people function at all?
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Zendervai
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It sounds like their touring and production schedule was insane and if things like food and accommodation and clothing were covered while touring and producing (not rare) and she never ran into a lack of funds when she wasn’t touring and didn’t check because she was exhausted, that’s not really that weird. Depending on the schedules, that’s literally months at a time with very few personal expenses. |
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Joe Mello
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We probably have to do another round of explaining that the entertainment industry is usually unkind towards its talent, especially so in Asia. This can be exploited by unscrupulous management because the talent often don't have the self-preservation instincts nor the means to fight back.
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Hellsoldier
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And yet again, more talented people cease their activities thanks to corporate exploitive behavior.
Her mental health was going down the drain, and she wasn't getting all that she was owed. She made the right call. It's a pitty, since I enjoyed several of their songs. Arguably the best thing in Beatless or Mahouka. But ultimately, her well-being is the thing that matters the most in this case. |
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MFrontier
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My heart goes out to MaRiA. I hope she can feel better now that she's free from that agency.
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mako
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"He didn't engage in fighting between us members, so I would appreciate it if you refrained from using abusive or offensive language against him."
(メンバーと争うために行動を起こしたわけではないので 彼に対しての暴言や攻撃するような言葉はお控えいただけましたらと思います。) I don't think the subject of the first part is "he (Toku)"; I think it's MARiA. She's saying something like, "I didn't take action to fight the other member, so I'd appreciate it ~." |
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unready
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The talent agency (the same people who employ and -- nominally -- pay the talent) manages the talent's finances. As long as the talent has a place to sleep, food to eat, and clothes to wear (all of which can probably be classified as business expenses), they don't necessarily need to spend their own money themselves. There's no reason to check constantly to see how much money they have (unless, of course, the talent agency is violating labor laws by not paying the talent). Disclaimer: IANAL. I am certainly not a Japanese labor lawyer. |
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DRosencraft
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Having an accountant (or, at least someone who is supposed to be in charge of managing the money) is in fact a part of the problem. A lot of times they aren't "really" accountants, which is in of itself a problem - had a law professor who called them "money handlers". All they really do is make sure various bills are paid. Being an accountant is a lot more than jus that, but you don't need to be trained or certified to assume the role, and that is what can get folks into trouble trusting someone who presents themselves well but isn't actually trained as an accountant. Additionally, when you have too many extra eyes and hands between you and your money, it becomes very easy to lose track of who, what, and where - who knows what money is coming in or going out, where that money coming in is coming from, or who it is going out to. Especially for folks like musicians, actors, and athletes, as often times their general everyday expenses are "fronted" by their agency/reps/organization, so if not expressly living high on the hog they aren't going to run into any money problems or have to even worry about money to bother checking to know if they can afford something; just finished a job that should have paid thousands, want to splurge on dinner, not going to think about checking to see if you can cover a $100 dinner. As long as some money is coming in, not likely going to have their card declined when paying. So it gets missed easily because their account they're technically interacting with remains liquid enough to meet their needs, but used blindly because they trust the money they are supposed to be getting is actually getting into that account. Daily expenses, food, lodging, gets paid by someone else. Their "actual" earnings are (supposed to be) deposited into their bank accounts. When you then also have money coming in from endorsement deals, separate projects, various public appearances/engagements, you have a number of income streams, and it can become messy to figure out which ones are actually still coming in and which aren't, or aren't coming in as much as they should, if you our your accountant aren't paying real attention. Which again, when you're a busy performer dealing with training, rehearsals, performances, interviews with any number of outlets in their various forms, and what time you are willing/able to give to yourself, your family, your friends, it becomes very easy to not pay attention to things until bills aren't getting paid. Why don't they check their accounts? "Why would I? That's what I hired someone to do for me in the first place. Otherwise, might as well just manage my own accounts," tends to be the attached logic. It is how some folks end up defrauded for years without ever knowing - they trust that someone else is that last stop protection. And it's not just the moderately wealthy. I knew a case of a person working retail who didn't realize that for years they were having child support payments deducted from their paycheck due to an error by their employer. Person that was supposed to be receiving the money didn't realize anything because they were getting their checks on time, this person whose check was being garnished didn't bother looking at their paystub for years. But because they never experienced their check dropping (basically was being deducted since time they hired on) never bothered to scrutinize their paystubs. |
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Cypher997
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Disclaimer : IANAL. Not paying anybody's wages regardless of region is just scummy, that falls under the category of 'wage theft' from a layman's point of view. Pretty sad that MARiA left due to corporate greed, but I think she made the right call to take care of herself as a result of that mess.
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Greboruri
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Reading the book "Idols and Celebrity in Japanese Media Culture", a few years back, this is pretty much how ot works for a lot of people in the Japanese entertainment industry. So the artist gets a per diem or a contract negotiated each year by the talent agency stating how much they will be paid annually, regardless of how much work they do, how much profit is made from concerts, TV appearances or royalties from CD sales. It's extremely hard to make a career outside of the talent agency system as they have a huge influence on entertainment industry. Few people have managed to be really successful without a talent agency. |
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