Forum - View topicHey, Answerman! [2009-01-23]
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4nBlue
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While I agree that almost all of the dating sim (visual novel/ADV/eroge/what you like to call them) based anime suck, I can't believe it to be the reason that there are not many good anime considering that last year only around 10 anime (OVA not included) were based on them. This season had only one such anime. There is also a very good reason why they are being produced: Game is released -> game is good -> game has fans -> anime is produced -> anime is shit -> hardcore fans buy it = profit!!! Edit: Forgot an important part: Anime is produced -> game gets publicity -> game sells = profit!!! -> game gets an all-ages console adaption -> game sells even more = even more profit!!! |
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Ai no Kareshi
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I rather think "Answermaniacs" sounds pretty good.
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vashfanatic
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I strongly suspect MANGLOBE was aiming Samurai Champloo at an American audience as well... As for the butterflies, they're associated with death because they're associated with rebirth and reincarnation. The caterpillar "dies" and transforms into something new. To quote Wikipedia (which in turn is quoting Lafcadio Hearn), "a butterfly is seen as the personification of a person's soul; whether they be living, dying, or already dead." (I love plagiarizing a site that plagiarizes!) But yes, they also look awfully pretty too. |
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petran79
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some other coproductions that come to mind: Mysterious Cities of Gold, Ulysses 31, Alfred J Kwak Also coproductions of Nippon Animation mainly with European broadcasters like Adventures of El Cid, Jungle Book, Pinnochio, Maya the Bee, 3 Muskethounds and various others. They were and still are very popular. Also the World Masterpiece Theater series were targetting audiences outside Japan. Nippon Animation participated in various international events related to promoting the series abroad. But back then no one knew they were even from Japan. Back then no Internet and DVDs. Just television and at least 4 hours cartoons a day so the audiences were much greater than today. |
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Mistypearl
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I remember reading (watching?) a book/show that said something along the lines of "Butterflies are beautiful creatures, though cursed with a short life" or something like that. I can't remember where. And I prefer Answermaniacs myself 
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heavyweather
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Concerning Anime OPs: Boa was a British indie rock that very few people had heard of band before their song "Duvet" got put into Serial Experiments Lain. So it is possible for a small, non-Japanese band to get into an anime - but still not likely.
Concerning Mix Tapes: At least it wasn't Godspeed You! Black Emperor... |
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mirax
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Another butterfly theory:
I had the pleasure of partaking in an audience interview with Satoshi Kon when he premiered "Paprika" in D.C. a few years back. The question about the butterflies in the movie was specifically asked, and Kon replied with the well-known Taoist parable "The Butterfly's Dream" by Chuang Tzu (or Zhuangzi). In the parable, Chuang Tzu says he once dreamed he was a butterfly, came to enjoy and become accustomed to the life of a butterfly, and forgot he was human. Then he woke up to find himself human, leaving him to wonder if he was dreaming of the butterfly or if he himself was but a dream of a butterfly. Paprika is about dreams, which is why that symbolism fits. Click for the Wiki I think this is why in Card Captor Sakura the "Dream" card is represented by a butterfly as well. |
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writerpatrick
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I figured that the butterfly motif had something to do with the supposedly real events in Japan that inspired Madame Butterfly (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madama_Butterfly). The story involves a beautiful woman waiting for a lost husband and not knowing if he is alive or dead. Hence the butterfly, at least initially, would symbolize the mourning of a lost soul. Subsequently, like in Bleach, it just became associated with death. Although Yuko in Holic would be a similar character.
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DavidShallcross
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Nah, the biggest series in Japan are Sazae-san and Doraemon. Which I don't see appearing in R1 anytime soon. |
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Teriyaki Terrier
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I noticed that as well yesterday. Wonder if there is a malfuntion of some sort? Also, what is wrong with Bleach and Inuyasha? The first anime I had ever watched was Inuyasha and I've been watching Bleach since the series first aired on television almost three years ago. At least both series don't contain massive amounts of fanservice. |
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The Ramblin' Wreck
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Doraemon could be considered Japan's Mickey Mouse at this point. It's moved beyond "anime" to "cultural icon/touchstone" |
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Zin5ki
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I cannot say I feel any real connection with the person watching Bleach on the computer in front of me at college, or those who attend the weekly anime night screening, as they simply like something which is a member of the same class of things which I like; it'd be speculative to presuppose I'd get along with such people any more or less than I would with any other person.
Online, I'm also at no hurry to branch out from the ANN community- a more local or specialised forum may not be as active as this one. Since I'm firmly within one camp, I don't really know how one could objectively summarise the relationship between various factions. EDIT:
Are you sure you don't mean Eton of Berkshire? Eaton in Oxfordshire doesn't appear to have very much in it. Last edited by Zin5ki on Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:47 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Animehermit
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to put it simply, they suck. Inuyasha is boring, its the same story over and over again, its like Gilligan's Island, do you ever expect them to kill Naraku? as for Bleach, thats just a more generic version of already good anime, Yu Yu Hakusho(which in turn is just a cooler version of DBZ) |
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belisarius
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Just for the sake of obnoxiousness, the mesozoic era is basically the time of the dinosaurs and ends with their extinction. I don't think anyone was around making wood cuts at the time. I will hope that was written as part of your Dennis Miller-esque hyperbole. Also, yes, Animal Collective are too weird. |
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yojimboray
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Nothing wrong with this. A lot of great anime was made before there was any hint of a western audience. Does everything have to be westernized? As an American, sometimes I feel like we are the modern day equivalent of the Borg from Star Trek- "You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile." |
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