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kazziyan
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FFX-2 did actually sell pretty well for a sequel. You should check the worldwide sales. Why? because its known as one of the best battle systems by fans? Sales do not matter since its reception is quite well. I don't understand why you've gotten into sales here. Sales =/= Quality. 5.2 million is bad? wow. No comparisons are needed, for a sequel that re-used so many assets, it was really successful. Same applies to XIII-2. The reasons sales have dropped is because the audience has gotten older and turned away. It's a general and natural decline. The game is not that action-based if you saw. And it features the ATB system once again, btw. Even if it was action-based, XIII's battle system has been extremely well received. |
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TitanXL
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Those figures should be higher given the last official numbers they gave were 9.6 million in July 2012, and those only add up to 9.26, but still, like kazziyan said, given X-2 and XIII-2 were mostly reused material, you can't really judge those sales compared to the main entry sales. They're far cheaper to make. Given most original games don't even sell over 1 or 2 million those are not a bad numbers. I know a lot of companies who would kill to sell 'only' 3 million copies.
Still, using sales is a bit tricky. You say they dropped since X-2, well, the only non MMO FF between X-2 and XIII was XII, and XII was mostly disliked and sold fairly poorly. And by poorly I mean 5.7 million or so. And what about IX? That sold even worse and was the lowest selling main game. Yes, VII was the peak, but by default anything that isn't the peak is a decline. If anything games like X and XIII are helping revitilize the brand after the 'mediocre' entries like IX and XII respectively. |
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methaniel
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Humuh, I must admit that indeed masks tend to give away the identity of a character quite fast (Ah, Gundam's masks...). After all, it's maybe my "old-school" vibe that like the fact that characters are somehow hidden (even if obvious) through the use of such device. But well, they are going for a new thing and in fact would it turn out to truly be an original character, I would even be more surprised. For example, by stretching it a little bit, could it be spoiler[a younger lightning from another plane which is travelling like Sera's did in XIII-2 and so sometimes drops by this dimension?]. In case this supposition sounds too stupid, I haven't played XIII-2 as of yet (I shall do it some day when I have time) (And also, to be annoyed at X-2 for being a strip-show makes it look like they never went past the 5h marks of this game...since the only "strip" that appear later are the change of job which are usually skipped...) |
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TitanXL
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If she is an entirely new character, I think I'll go with Lumina being spoiler[Serah and Snow's daughter from the future]. That sounds pretty likely as well. Otherwise, it might just be spoiler[Serah who gets resurrected from the dead and brainwashed by Chaos into being it's servant] Assuming they're an antagonist or something.
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kazziyan
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Another theory is that she is a creation and meant to resemble Serah because, spoiler[ this will keep Lightning on a leash and Bhunivelzei does not want her knowing somethings. hence the help/hindrance relationship]
Another was that she is like spoiler[Yeul where the chaos becomes sentient and takes the form of Chaos-Yeul. Similar things happen with Serah since she is a serress] |
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zeopower6
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BTW, I think FFXIII-2 made Square-Enix more money than XIII did in the long run because they didn't have to build that game from scratch despite selling much less.
Anyway, I really want to know what happens in this final XIII game and maybe we may actually get XV soon. |
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Lady Multi
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Those ARE worldwide sales figures. Sales figures measure a success of a game as, depending on the sale of game measures the interest of the game. You were saying FFx-2 was a successful sequel and I pointed out "no" because it didn't sell compared to its few previous series releases. It's been confirmed, as it was announced, "Lightning Returns" is an action-rpg. It is NOT a traditional RPG; they take a character people complain about (I really was indifferent about her), and something so totaly not FF and made a game. And if FFX-2 had such a 'great system" why do most people BASH the game and say how horrible it is? Where ARE you getting your news? FF fans are getting older. Well, duh, people age. That doesn't mean a thing, though. My brother is 35 and makes point of replaying FF7 every year. I've played ALL the FF games, and if you didn't know this: FF11, 12, 13, 13-2, and this game were not created/designed by the original designer of many of the other FF games. That's just an FYI. I'm more of a Tales series fanatic and if that "gamers get older" logic were to be true I would have stopped playing Tales games a long time ago. Instead, I have multiple copies of the same game due to English/Japanese release and being unsure of localization. They haven't changed a bit; my love for them hasn't changed a bit. When there is a series you expect similar premises, story cliches, and the like. When a game series turns away from that, it is then when fans fall from it; as I said, and why I used sales figures, was that the sales DECLINED with FFX-2 and has never truly recovered. They changed something; they altered a mechanic and it dropped their sales. ....Same thing happened to Breath of Fire series. They CHANGED the mechanic and fans (of the series) did not like it. Some loved it; keepers of the series' didn't. Saying a game is "successful" is different than saying "profitable". I know they made money off of X-2 and XIII-2 because they were lazy and decided to re-use stuff they had. They didn't care if they literally gave their fans the finger or not when they starting changing characters and making people look and act like total sluts (x-2's strip show). ...for x-2 and xiii-3 to be considered "Successful" it should have matched or neared the sale of its predecessor. THAT is my point. They made money, but imagine if they would have truly made it great and sold just as many copies as the first in the series. They didn't. ....To say the least. You know how I gauge popularity of a game and thus its success? Ebay used prices. You can get X-2 for $10. While the "unsuccessful" (since I read how much people don't like it for some reason) FF9 is $25; FFX is $20; on the other hand: FFVII (though available on PSN for $10 and however much the PC version sells for) ps copies still sell for $30-50. |
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TitanXL
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How exactly were the girls in X-2 'sluts'? Outside doujinshi, I don't remember them going around having sex with random dudes. In fact, from what I remember, Yuna's whole quest in that game was traveling the world to find a way to bring back the single guy she loves.
And who complained about Lightning? She's easily the breakaway character from the game and one of the most popular Final Fantasy girls. |
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Aynslesa
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Not sure why so many people are quick to claim that Lumina is Serah - sure, they both have pink hair, but if you look at the pictures (admittedly it's not the best scan), especially the lower one, the facial structure is all wrong for Serah. Lumina has a fuller face. I'm not going to say she *isn't* Serah, and I'm sure she's *connected* to Serah somehow, but I think it's way too soon to jump to conclusions, lol. Let's at least wait until she shows up in a trailer?
I will add, though, that I like the theory of her being Serah and Snow's daughter from some timeline. I am very much a Snow/Serah fan, and XIII-2 left me depressed in terms of their relationship. |
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