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NEWS: The Rising of The Shield Hero Anime Gets 2 More Seasons

My issues with Shield Hero wasn't the controversies, but that it was a show with some great ideas with terrible execution. It had some things to say about propaganda, religion, groupthink, manipulation, morality, the consequences of the careless actions of the rich and powerful, but it never did anything with any of it. The church of the Three Heroes is evil but instead of exploring the religion and how they influence the world they just defeat them in one badly choreographed fight scene. The villains are flat and dull, and everyone either hates the Shield Hero (and those people are always evil and/or stupid) or worshiping the ground he walks on, with no in between. No gray, just a lot of black and white.
The part where I knew I was done was when they spoiler[pretended to kill off two of the more competent heroes, Sword and Bow. I was super excited because it was a complete game changer. Naofumi's life just got ten times harder, he'd have to convince the world to trust in him instead of killing him and re-summoning some new people, and it would force him to work with the other remaining hero, spear. I couldn't wait to see where this twist took us. But nope, it was a fakout death and everyone was fine]. Whee.

I don't think I'll watch the new seasons unless it seriously fixes its issues.

It's literally not possible to save the world if any of the heroes are missing, it should have been obvious they weren't actually dead because then the series would end and Fitoria would actually kill Naofumi herself. Also many of your issues are just the result of you judging the series by its first arc. There is SO much more world building, plot twists, and character backstories that flesh out everything from the first season (including the stuff dealing with King Aultcray) that it's silly to judge stuff based off the first season alone.

Shield Hero is a long running web/light novel series and it takes time building up to plot reveals and motivations for characters so of course if you're judging it solely on the first season when Naofumi still knows VERY little about the world then it's going to seem shallow. It's like how people were criticizing the first episode when it aired about how it made no sense why Naofumi was treated badly or how the Matriarchy line was a plot hole because a king was in charge which is all stuff answered as the season went on but people were too impatient to get that stuff explained.

I hope the new season keeps on hammering the fact that this is a different route. It's a double like because it makes it more interesting ot watch it and it pisses off some light novel readers, the ones that have been spoiling the show left and right and who claim that the light novel is the canon version (even though they are multiple routes). It's almost as fun as pissing off fate primaries.

But with two full seasons green lit for production, it proves that a lot of people were entertained, and it was profitable.

Catsplay wrote:

It's literally not possible to save the world if any of the heroes are missing, it should have been obvious they weren't actually dead because then the series would end and Fitoria would actually kill Naofumi herself. Also many of your issues are just the result of you judging the series by its first arc. There is SO much more world building, plot twists, and character backstories that flesh out everything from the first season (including the stuff dealing with King Aultcray) that it's silly to judge stuff based off the first season alone. Shield Hero is a long running web/light novel series and it takes time building up to plot reveals and motivations for characters so of course if you're judging it solely on the first season when Naofumi still knows VERY little about the world then it's going to seem shallow. It's like how people were criticizing the first episode when it aired about how it made no sense why Naofumi was treated badly or how the Matriarchy line was a plot hole because a king was in charge which is all stuff answered as the season went on but people were too impatient to get that stuff explained.

Really? Giving a show 25 episodes, aka 5-ish hours of my time "Was not enough?"
Also it's fiction, not reality. Shield and Spear struggling to find a way to still save the world spoiler[when half their crew has been blown to smithereens] could've been written, because again, it's fiction. Their world isn't real and set in stone.

No 5 hours isn't enough for a long form story, that's like complaining you can't get all the plot reveals in One Piece in the first 30 episodes, longer stories take time developing their world and plot. Also that wouldn't have been consistent with the foreshadowing and literal statements made by various characters over the course of the series and it would have been a waste to kill off Itsuki and Ren there especially in regards to their future development. Characters dying or getting killed off don't automatically make for a good story and I rather have Ren and Itsuki stick around because they do make the plot more interesting later on.

Catsplay wrote:

No 5 hours isn't enough for a long form story, that's like complaining you can't get all the plot reveals in One Piece in the first 30 episodes, longer stories take time developing their world and plot. Also that wouldn't have been consistent with the foreshadowing and literal statements made by various characters over the course of the series and it would have been a waste to kill off Itsuki and Ren there especially in regards to their future development. Characters dying or getting killed off don't automatically make for a good story and I rather have Ren and Itsuki stick around because they do make the plot more interesting later on.

Ok but One Piece laid out the plot, its world, fought four groups of villains, as well as introduced and endeared me to its cast of characters in the first thirty episodes. And it's slow as molasses. Shield Hero did not manage to endear me to most its cast or really do much of anything in the same amount of time. Just kind of faffed about and hinted at stuff.

I know I'm not alone in liking the main characters and they were extremely popular so I guess you can't act like objectively the series failed to endear people to its cast, it's definitely subjective there.

Catsplay wrote:

I know I'm not alone in liking the main characters and they were extremely popular so I guess you can't act like objectively the series failed to endear people to its cast, it's definitely subjective there.

Actually yes they can. The show might have endeared you to the cast, but not everyone is you. Not everyone enjoyed it. People can have differing opinions without being told they have a personal problem for liking or not liking a show.

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I don't understand. If you're arguing that the anime has changed the characterization of some characters, i can agree with. But it sounds like you're claiming it has changed the story. There have been some differences, mostly cut content, but i can't think of anything that has changed drastically enough to call the anime a different route.

I do, however, think the WN is a different route from the LN.

Psycho 101 wrote:

Catsplay wrote: I know I'm not alone in liking the main characters and they were extremely popular so I guess you can't act like objectively the series failed to endear people to its cast, it's definitely subjective there. Actually yes they can. The show might have endeared you to the cast, but not everyone is you. Not everyone enjoyed it. People can have differing opinions without being told they have a personal problem for liking or not liking a show.

Did you even read what I wrote!? I LITERALLY said it's subjective and trying to tell the guy I quoted that it wasn't objective that the cast wasn't endearing and that we had a difference of opinion. Please actually pay attention before posting a response.