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Jason Thompson's House of 1000 Manga - The Greatest Censorship Fails

I actually wonder what the demographic of it would be. Its still a very idealistic and innocent manga, even if it does have the nudity and such in it. I recall being around 15 when I read it, and it seemed about the right age for it. Rereading 10 years later, it was still a good manga, especially for its genre, but, it was as mature as something I would read now.

Rather than rewrite entire storylines, he chose to cover the characters' breasts with little stars like on the cover of an old porn video—thus ironically actually drawing attention to the fact that it had been censored. Could this have been the rebellious editor's intention all along? (P.S. I used to be the editor's roommate.)

I think the editors intent was to imitate a scene later in the manga where stars were also used as censhorship (from the scanslations, since its easier for me to dig up that then scans of the original jp release).

Case in point, DMP's third volume of a popular, explicit yaoi series was unexpectedly released censored, and when this was reported in the on-line forums, many readers cancelled their orders. One of the forum members contacted DMP, who admitted that this was due to the ordinance, and they published it the way Japan sent it. I have to wonder if DMP's recent hiatus is partly due to all the pre-censored stuff coming out of Japan. Most of their customers are looking for the explicit stuff, and that seems to be increasingly rare.

Akukame wrote:

penguintruth wrote: Manga artists should start demanding not to be censored for any reason or they'll refuse to let it be brought over, but I realize that getting published internationally is probably a real boon for some of these folks, so they're willing to compromise. To my knowledge, manga artists do have a final say in whether or not a censorship gets done. Though I am sure this isn't always the case, in the case of most of Viz's releases (like Tenjou Tenge and I''s), it was stated that the edits were shown to the original manga artists and they signed off on them. Though it may not have been the authors original intention, they at least approved of them or did not thing the changes were significant enough to effect the work as a whole. Its not like these changes were made against the author's wishes.

Some of them probably need the extra income. I can''t think that they are happy about it, though.

It funny how there's this attitude in the U.S. to not negotiate with radicalized religious groups, but are always capitulating to radicalized christians.

tuxedocat wrote:

Case in point, DMP's third volume of a popular, explicit yaoi series was unexpectedly released censored, and when this was reported in the on-line forums, many readers cancelled their orders. One of the forum members contacted DMP, who admitted that this was due to the ordinance, and they published it the way Japan sent it. I have to wonder if DMP's recent hiatus is partly due to all the pre-censored stuff coming out of Japan. Most of their customers are looking for the explicit stuff, and that seems to be increasingly rare.

Just out of curiosity, which title would this be? I'm trying to think of what I've gotten v03 of lately and I'm drawing a blank. I order pretty much everything so I probably have it, whatever it is...

tuxedocat wrote:

Akukame wrote: penguintruth wrote: Manga artists should start demanding not to be censored for any reason or they'll refuse to let it be brought over, but I realize that getting published internationally is probably a real boon for some of these folks, so they're willing to compromise. To my knowledge, manga artists do have a final say in whether or not a censorship gets done. Though I am sure this isn't always the case, in the case of most of Viz's releases (like Tenjou Tenge and I''s), it was stated that the edits were shown to the original manga artists and they signed off on them. Though it may not have been the authors original intention, they at least approved of them or did not thing the changes were significant enough to effect the work as a whole. Its not like these changes were made against the author's wishes. Some of them probably need the extra income. I can''t think that they are happy about it, though. It funny how there's this attitude in the U.S. to not negotiate with radicalized religious groups, but are always capitulating to radicalized christians.

I get it that you don't Like Christians, you really need to stop with your blanked religion statements, I can tell you this that these business decisions are not made with Christians in mind in fact, they look at the bigger picture and they are making a business decision based on what would hurt the sale of the manga or item. I can tell you this most Christians except for a few don't know or care about Manga, this decisions are made at the top because they don't want to offend people on both sides.

I am a Christian, myself and these things don't bother me. I have seen many things in my life that does not bother me. if they have Christ on a cross in a cemetery that does not bother me, I am not offended by the swastikas because I know more about them and know that they are more then just the Germans had used them. If the next Naruto has him and another guy kissing guess what it does not bother me because I just won't read it and I will not stop someone from reading it. You jump on the Christian bashing bandwagon and you have not let up in any of your posts. Yes I know there are a few Christians out there that do not like or care for the themes that manga had in them. Just because you have a few people out there that do not understand or care to understand it does not make the rest of us Christians evil and we have a vendetta to change and edit manga.

Grow up and learn to let go of your hatred of Christians and realize that the left is just as guilty as the right, they preach censorship just as much as the right does, and for the record I don't like censorship, i enjoy reading how the author originally created the product, while I may not like or agree with it that person is with their right to create a offensive product, I won't support the product but I will support their freedom to create.

trandraskell wrote:

tuxedocat wrote: Akukame wrote: penguintruth wrote: Manga artists should start demanding not to be censored for any reason or they'll refuse to let it be brought over, but I realize that getting published internationally is probably a real boon for some of these folks, so they're willing to compromise. To my knowledge, manga artists do have a final say in whether or not a censorship gets done. Though I am sure this isn't always the case, in the case of most of Viz's releases (like Tenjou Tenge and I''s), it was stated that the edits were shown to the original manga artists and they signed off on them. Though it may not have been the authors original intention, they at least approved of them or did not thing the changes were significant enough to effect the work as a whole. Its not like these changes were made against the author's wishes. Some of them probably need the extra income. I can''t think that they are happy about it, though. It funny how there's this attitude in the U.S. to not negotiate with radicalized religious groups, but are always capitulating to radicalized christians. I get it that you don't Like Christians, you really need to stop with your blanked religion statements, I can tell you this that these business decisions are not made with Christians in mind in fact, they look at the bigger picture and they are making a business decision based on what would hurt the sale of the manga or item. I can tell you this most Christians except for a few don't know or care about Manga, this decisions are made at the top because they don't want to offend people on both sides. I am a Christian, myself and these things don't bother me. I have seen many things in my life that does not bother me. if they have Christ on a cross in a cemetery that does not bother me, I am not offended by the swastikas because I know more about them and know that they are more then just the Germans had used them. If the next Naruto has him and another guy kissing guess what it does not bother me because I just won't read it and I will not stop someone from reading it. You jump on the Christian bashing bandwagon and you have not let up in any of your posts. Yes I know there are a few Christians out there that do not like or care for the themes that manga had in them. Just because you have a few people out there that do not understand or care to understand it does not make the rest of us Christians evil and we have a vendetta to change and edit manga. Grow up and learn to let go of your hatred of Christians and realize that the left is just as guilty as the right, they preach censorship just as much as the right does, and for the record I don't like censorship, i enjoy reading how the author originally created the product, while I may not like or agree with it that person is with their right to create a offensive product, I won't support the product but I will support their freedom to create.

Hello. I was referring to radicalized christians, here. Please re-read what i previously posted.

You can't tell me they aren't out there:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/under-god/post/westboro-baptist-church-to-picket-sandy-hook-funerals-4-ways-to-respond/2012/12/17/520a6ba0-488e-11e2-b6f0-e851e741d196_blog.html

I did read what you wrote and it was both of your points that I was speaking about not just the last one. Here the thing if you look at what I wrote I said that there are some out there that don't care or want to understand what others look at or read, and they will try to force their changes on what people view and read, some of these groups like Westboro give Christians a bad name, while most of us are for morals and limit what we read or view most do it on their own, either they will not read or view things that they find offensive because we know that we cannot change everything so we focus on our individual lives and those around us.

This is on both sides not just on the right but on the left also and I have seen non-Christian parents say more about censorship then most Christians have.

Jason wrote:

In Viz's Dragon Ball Z, it's OK for Cyborg #17 to blow up whole cities, but when he shoots an old man with a handgun, that scene had to be changed.

Ugh, this is just one example of how utterly stupid censorship is. I swear, some people should not be working in adapting Anime and Manga if they are going to make changes like this.

trandraskell wrote:

I did read what you wrote and it was both of your points that I was speaking about not just the last one. Here the thing if you look at what I wrote I said that there are some out there that don't care or want to understand what others look at or read, and they will try to force their changes on what people view and read, some of these groups like Westboro give Christians a bad name, while most of us are for morals and limit what we read or view most do it on their own, either they will not read or view things that they find offensive because we know that we cannot change everything so we focus on our individual lives and those around us. This is on both sides not just on the right but on the left also and I have seen non-Christian parents say more about censorship then most Christians have.

*sigh* Look, it wouldn't be a problem for you if this had been another religious group I had indicated. But this is North America and the people who always make a stink about this stuff, here in North America, are christians.

I realize not every religious person is radicalized but the ones that are make problems for everyone.

I guess it sucks for me that most of the hate speech I hear lately comes with the qualifier that "it is destroying the christian faith".

Maybe I should also state that christians aren't the only religious group I see making excuses. Any religion that believes in hell, seemingly have lists of people and groups of people who belong there.

If you had read the link I provided you would have seen that lot of the solutions listed are proposed by other christian groups that aren't radicalized like the WBC.

I actually did read the link but you are using extreme case here, as Christian they have a right to be upset they feel that people are forcing them to abandon their beliefs just to be accepted in this world. Do you know what hate speech truly is what WBC does is hate speech, while most Christians may not agree with homosexuality and its lifestyle they do not to see it everywhere and they don't want to be force to change because of their beliefs. This whole subject of manga being censored has nothing to do with Religion at all.

This has to do with a corporations making choice based on the comic code that exist in the USA. This is why these changes are done, for the corporations and by the corporations and nothing more. The corporations do not want to be sued because they might have offended a Religious group or ethic group period.

dtm42 wrote:

Jason wrote: In Viz's Dragon Ball Z, it's OK for Cyborg #17 to blow up whole cities, but when he shoots an old man with a handgun, that scene had to be changed. Ugh, this is just one example of how utterly stupid censorship is. I swear, some people should not be working in adapting Anime and Manga if they are going to make changes like this.

It gets even dumber in Nicktoons' edit of DBZ Kai. When Vegeta blows up an innocent driver they added him yelling "Dude, my truck!!". I laughed a lot in that scene. It gets kind of disturbing when they replaced the red blood in Gohan's mouth with "white liquid".

I haven't bought the DVD/Bluray set in question but apparently the "Dude, my truck" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2WLFskmx-4) scene is preserved on the "uncut sets". >_>