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walw6pK4Alo
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Why would anyone bring up any of their fetishes or sexual turn-ons in that kind of setting? "I like midget trannie porn" would just be just as bad. Even "I like starring at some big titties on legal adult women" would keep you from getting hired anywhere that isn't a strip club. |
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vangelionite88
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real cp is ilegal, granted. with loli porn people claim that it is a gateway to the actual thing.
well if that was true then why have i never tried anything harder than weed? its a gateway drug isint it?. with the volume of lolicon on the internet wouldent most internet users be convicted pedophiles by now? |
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revolutionotaku
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Loli/Shota anime & manga are banned in Canada.
At the same time, they can get away with releasing pedophilia influenced movies such as these. "That's My Boy (2012)" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/That%27s_My_Boy_(2012_film) "Milk Money (1994)" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk_Money_(film) "A Serbian Film (2010)". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Serbian_Film |
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tcsavato
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In regards to possession of CP... That's a tough nut to crack. The people who produce it and exploit the kids will always do it, regardless of the market or not. More than likely, it's more a trophy to them then getting it out to the world via the internet. Those that possess said images, however, do deserve some form of punishment, but to say they be sent for life or death is harsh. The Real monsters are the ones that make it and they are the ones that need to be stopped.
This just makes the guy sound idiotic. You can say the same thing for any other crime presented in fictional media. I mean, hell if you are going to go after lolicon, at least go after fictional representations of rape, murder and theft too. Fiction is fiction and every logical person would see it that way, regardless of the actual content or depiction. |
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HyugaHinata
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Good luck enforcing these thoughtcrimes. They'd have to lock up everyone born since 1982. And let's not forget about two 15-year-olds getting it on. That's mutual rape! |
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dtm42
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Such Manga is harmless. Lolicon Hentai Manga does not make people abuse children, nor were any children harmed to make it. If you really cared about real children you'd want police to go after the sickos. The ones who rape children, or try and pimp their toddler to other men (this happened just recently), or beat their baby so severely the child's blood ends up on the ceiling and the child later died, or who are put in a dryer and then hung out on the clothesline and spun around (really happened: the child was in a coma for thirty-six hours before the family went to the hospital)*. You would certainly not want the police to be wasting time on victimless thought crimes.
As others have pointed out, this is a retarded example. * Here is what Wikipedia has to say about it:
While the abuse was not sexual in nature, it was absolutely horrific and shocked the nation. Stopping people who abuse real children and/or spread real child pornography is the sort of thing that the police should be focusing on. It pains me to think that police and courts wasted their time on a harmless German tourist when they could have been out there dealing with the real scumbags. |
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aeris2001x2
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Will you stop reporting stories where they have a mix of real and fake CP?
He had some real stuff, he got what he deserved. Report the stories where he has Anime only so we can fight the insane laws that criminalise non harmful behaviour. |
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revolutionotaku
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The Canadian government has to deal with the harsh reality that once they ban/outlaw/prohibit animated material such as BL, Lolicon & Shotacon in their country, they do not go away completely. They simply just go underground out of plain sight in order to stay off the police & government's radar. Once something goes underground, they are more & more difficult for them to watch. So It just creates more of a problem for themselves.
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Alexander55
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A 4-9 month sentence towards jail sounds fair for the 12 pics of real child porn he held. However, the probation sentence he received is too extreme. Not just that, but he is also be charged for the loli/high school aged hentai he held on his computer, which is completely unethical and unjust.
Also being registered as a "Sex Offender" for 10 years and a prohibition/lifetime ban on the public places he could travel or the type of individuals he could interact with is too extreme. He should have just had his computer confiscated, questioned on how he acquired 12 pics of CP, and should have been put on a 1-3 year surveillance program after his sentence, followed by 1-2 years of mandatory community service. That would have been fair and would have sent the message to him and all others who try to procure real CP. But to place all those restrictions for a bunch of pics he held is a bit too much, and included with all the Anime pics he held, is just wrong. Canada's judicial system is pretty screwed if anyone's lives can be ruined for a bunch of pics. Sure I would look for ways to discourage people to obtain real CP to begin with but we need to go after the people that produce this sh*t, not just the downloaders.... |
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tcsavato
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The problem lies in that he is also being charged with a crime for having lolicon, so it is still relevant. Nobody here is defending him for the real CP, unless it happens to be overreaction like he had pics of some 14 year old taking nude pictures of herself that he somehow stumbled across. Who knows what the CP actually consists of or if the CP he was talking to undercover cops about was lolicon or real. These people won't differentiate between the two.
That's more or less the rest of the world as well, not just Canada. |
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revolutionotaku
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THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS!!!!!
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blindworm
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possessed live child pornography. no defense
hentai....unless there's a legit law against it (i don't know if there is, please tell me) it shouldn't be brought up in this. |
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Mohawk52
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This guy could have had 1000 images of CP manga and anime, but just 1 image of real CP, and he's going down. Who can argue with the judge's finding conclusions? It's the 12 real images that has sent him down and rightly so. The anime/manga was only added weight to make sure he went, and a gift to those who hold the reasoning that it was the anime/manga that caused him to get the real stuff. |
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dtm42
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^
Those people need all the gifts they can get, considering that the number of such cases is vanishingly small. |
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Mohawk52
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